12-14-2010, 06:48 PM | #57 | |
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i agree, its rediculus. take the money difference and turbo the Camaro. performance is similar then.
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12-15-2010, 07:55 AM | #59 |
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Gs are all slow V6 can crack it fairly easily. All the times for the V6 stock arent with very goods drivers it seems. That one dude who was on the homepage ran 13.4 with just a tune and bolt ons. These cars are much faster than you think.
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I was talking about an actual Jaguar in the wild, it's roar isn't overly low in pitch, it's more baritone but can rise to a high fierce growl, like a Jaguar. I have not said anything negative about anyone else's car exhaust either, so take a chill pill. You are right, it sounds more like a high revving BMW M3 V8 or Porsche's Flat 6(you can hear it far away and it sounds amazing shifting when it's so far away yet so close, it sounds just about as "snarly" as the BMW) . Nissan 370Z: E92 BMW M3: Porsche: Last edited by 08-G35s/6MT; 12-15-2010 at 11:02 PM. |
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subjectively the nissan V6 does sound good. the last one i heard sounded great, until waxed his behind and shifted at 7k. HE was the one thinking how good another car sounds. (nismo 370z)
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I'm not seeing any evidence that a G35 has an advantage over a V6 Camaro. Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of data for the stock V6 on the Camaro 5 fast list; but, when you compare the times for NA/Bolt-ons, they're pretty similar:
Bolt Ons (Modified airway, exhaust, tires, tune - no internal engine or power adders): 1. 13.420 @ 103.22 - ROD1 - A6 - (DRs/Skinnies, Injen CAI, ARH Longtubes/High Flow Cats, SS Axle Back, Trifecta Tune) 2. 13.741 @ 99.97 - 67 GTO - A6 - (Injen CAI, JBA Shorty Headers, GMPP Axle Back) 3. 13.744 @ 99.30 - HDRS - A6 - (DRs, Injen CAI, MRT v2.0 Axle Back) VS. 1. trey.hutcheson - 05 - Sedan - 6MT - 13.264@103.96 - 1.895 60ft - Verified --- BFG DR's -- 975ft DA 2. Dsskyline ------ 04 - Coupe - 5AT - 13.495@101.69 - 1.933 60ft - Verified --- Street 3. abailey269 ----- 04 - Sedan - 6MT - 13.631@101.57 - 1.966 60ft - Verified --- BFG DR's EDIT: Although, if you look at the signature of the guy at the top of the fast list on that particular forum, you can see his mods: 05 6MT Sedan. stock airbox, ztube, mrev, ichiba headers, kinetix pipes, stillen gen1 catback, Clutchmasters Stage1+JWT Fly, utec tuned by sharif + BFG's = 13.264@103.96mph in 975 feet DA Pretty close, if you ask me. Especially considering the Camaro has only been around for under two years. Unfortunately, the G35 fast list doesn't seem to carry many details regarding the mods used during the timed runs. Part of the problem with a stock-for-stock comparison of the G35 and the Camaro V6 is that the Camaro LTs come with ungodly large wheels and tires. ROD1 has already shown us that much by cutting .4 second off his 1/4 with a tire-swap (going from 13.8xx to 13.4xx). Of course, the Z is a different animal. I'd have to say it has a slight advantage over a Camaro V6. Personally, I like the G's and Z's a bit and they're respectable automobiles; but, I much prefer the styling of the Camaro.
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Had a G35 Coupe, was my wifes daily driver, I hated the narrow cabin, stability control cut inn way too fast, on off ramp my Acura RL could go faster, no comparison with my SS in acceleration or cornering, drag strip times don't matter that much, a friends THR supercharged SS can do no better than 103 mph, with 550 rwhp, spins in first three gears.
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I have to agree with you about the interior. The cockpit of my friend's G35 Coupe seems very claustrophobic compared to other vehicles, especially the Camaro.
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Stock my car dyno'd 242whp/210wtq. After all those mods, I dyno'd 265whp/250wtq. So all those mods and the tune yielded less than 20hp and roughly 40tq (talking peak numbers here). Under the curve, it the car became much harder to drive and lost quite a bit of torque under ~3500rpm. That same car also went 13.791@102mph with nothing more than highflow cats on street tires. Anyway, my point is that that platform is very hard to get any power out of. I think the cars would be pretty close stock or modded either way, but I think the camaro will ultimately have a higher ceiling. |
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The fuel delivery issue appears to have been addressed with some tuning adjustments by Vince at Trifecta (who seems to be legend on these boards now ), but there haven't been any drag times to see if the power can be effectively put down. Suspension and brake mods are going to be a must to use the extra power, that much seems certain.
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