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Old 05-26-2011, 09:05 PM   #85
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I think GM refines their cars superior to Ford, but I must confess that they do seem to follow Ford's lead especially in anything that is not mainstream.
I don't say this as a complaint, but more as a motivator.
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:46 PM   #86
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I must confess that they do seem to follow Ford's lead especially in anything that is not mainstream.



IMO I dont think GM follows Fords lead.... I think they just have different line ups. We all know Ford does not have a Vette fighter. How about a answer to the CTS-V??? On the other hand Ford has some models that we don't have a competitor for.... Raptor and the Boss. I honestly think neither of them follows the other. Its just a matter of what they think is profitable and they go from there.
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IMO I dont think GM follows Fords lead.... I think they just have different line ups. We all know Ford does not have a Vette fighter. How about a answer to the CTS-V??? On the other hand Ford has some models that we don't have a competitor for.... Raptor and the Boss. I honestly think neither of them follows the other. Its just a matter of what they think is profitable and they go from there.
Hopefully you won't see copying and following. It's part of the reason I am not so concerned about the low volume Boss or Raptor. Outstanding products from Ford. But there isn't a lot of money to be made in carving up very small pieces of pie.

But keep in mind, GM ran Ford out of the Full Size SUV business. Can you buy an Excursion? Nope, Suburban is the only game in town, unless you also consider the Yukon XL or the Escalade ESV. And can you get a Hybrid in a Ford FST or SUV? Negatory on that too.

As mentioned, Ford (Lincoln) really has no answer to Cadillac. And sadly that will only become more clear in the future. Unless you consider a Lincoln styled Explorer to be something truly special.

GM beat Ford to the punch on Ecoboost by developing the SIDI Turbo in the Sky and Solstice years before they came out with theirs in the V6. But I guess you can tip the hat to Ford for marketing it in such a way that they looked like the inovators and not GM as was the case.

GM is kicking Ford in the biscuits in China right now. And Ford has no answer.

Ford has some outstanding products, don't get me wrong. But it is a competition and if we both had the same view of the world, we would have the same products and services. And frankly that would be boring for the customer.
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But it is a competition and if we both had the same view of the world, we would have the same products and services. And frankly that would be boring for the customer.
I agree 100%
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Anyone looking to lighten their Camaro should take a look at Doc's build thread. It has some good info and he is starting to plug in weight savings numbers.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45165
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Old 05-30-2011, 03:28 PM   #90
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Anyone looking to lighten their Camaro should take a look at Doc's build thread. It has some good info and he is starting to plug in weight savings numbers.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45165
Cool read thanks!
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