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Badbubba · 05-16-2014, 02:29 PM

Fedex states my order has been delivered today. 18" TSW Nurburgring Gun Metal/Mirrored Face, 265/50 Nitto 555 in front and 305/45 Nitto 555R in the back. What should I expect of the handling characteristics for this combination on the street and strip? Will the car have a greater tendency to under steer on the street with all the grip out back? What tire pressures seem to work best? How difficult are they to spin in the water box, 1st gear or 2nd? Etc. Never had DRs before. The car is taken out only in good weather and mostly weekends.

Pro Stock John · 05-16-2014, 04:36 PM

I run that combo only I have NT05Rs in back. I used to have 20" 555R's a year ago.

Car drives great.

Badbubba · 05-17-2014, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

I run that combo only I have NT05Rs in back. I used to have 20" 555R's a year ago.

Car drives great.

Good, like to hear that. Coat of polish and they go on the car tomorrow. This rain gotta stop!!!!

SGOS252382 · 05-17-2014, 01:12 PM

I've run this setup for a while and my car handles really well. I frequently take a section of road near my house (nice set of S turns) really aggressively and my car handles great (better than it did stock - probably due to the wider rubber front and back).

You'll also be good to go in rain with new 555R drag tires. Just becareful when they get worn down and there's no tread left. Then they can get scary on wet roads (like trying to do 70 mph on the highway when its wet).
My drag radials are bald and I had to slow down to about 50 mph (speed limit 70) because the road was wet. Mean while, all the other cars were flying by me doing 70mph. So it's new 555Rs or some rain tires for me for the summer. It rains here every day all summer.
But like I said, when the 555Rs are new, they work fine in the rain.

Badbubba · 06-06-2014, 10:11 AM

Impressions so far:

Steering is heavier and requires slightly more effort. Handling feels improved. With the oem 20" Pirelli's, the steering felt "twitchy" at higher speeds and did not inspire confidence. Which may be in part to the FE3 suspension and shorter side walls. The car seems more stable on the straight ways and especially in the corners. Wheels are harder to clean, due to more places to wipe, and the backside, since it's tighter for your hand to fit through the front openings. Also, very little space between the caliper and wheel. Parking brake cable needed tied back, hose clamp. I do not have been the skates on my calipers, just stick on wheel weights. Almost no room between the wheel's weights and caliper's weights. Running at 36psi, no negatives so far with performance, sound or ride quality.

Pro Stock John · 06-06-2014, 11:06 AM

Your 18's up front are lighter, steering should feel a bit lighter. I'm not saying way lighter, but I recall that stock fronts are maybe 62 and the new setup you have might be 55 each?

Badbubba · 06-06-2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

Your 18's up front are lighter, steering should feel a bit lighter. I'm not saying way lighter, but I recall that stock fronts are maybe 62 and the new setup you have might be 55 each?

Yes, fronts are lighter. Weighed in at 53lb vs 60.5lb on scale. The steering wheel input feels heavier. I would believe it would be due to more tire scrub since the contact patch is larger and/or possibly from the compound and tread pattern. The Pirelli's on the front were not nearly worn as much as the ones on the rear. All had 13k miles. Went from a 245 to a 265, measured 1" difference from tire bulge to bulge. Also, iirc, the rear tires were slightly taller than the front. I didn't think about measuring them at that time, should have though. Taller tire in the rear would bias some weight forward. Nitto specs are .3" inches taller for the rear than the front. I thought it looked like more. Wheels are 9.5" wide rear and 8" wide for the front.

Pro Stock John · 06-06-2014, 05:09 PM

When I swap from my 20x8 snow tires 245s to my 18x9.5 + 265s it feels much lighter, and the steering input feels like I need less.

rickyrocket · 06-06-2014, 08:26 PM

Wheres the pics? your teasing us !

Badbubba · 06-06-2014, 09:26 PM

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When I swap from my 20x8 snow tires 245s to my 18x9.5 + 265s it feels much lighter, and the steering input feels like I need less.

You have a 2010 as well. Hmmmm.

Badbubba · 06-06-2014, 11:43 PM

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NinoSS · 08-24-2014, 09:10 PM

Looks awesome!!! I might look into this as a drag set up.

05-16-2014, 02:29 PM	#1
Badbubba GrINned & JUICEd Drives: 15STI, 10Expy, 10 2SS/RS M6, 47KB1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,247	Manner's of 18" 555 front & 555R rear Fedex states my order has been delivered today. 18" TSW Nurburgring Gun Metal/Mirrored Face, 265/50 Nitto 555 in front and 305/45 Nitto 555R in the back. What should I expect of the handling characteristics for this combination on the street and strip? Will the car have a greater tendency to under steer on the street with all the grip out back? What tire pressures seem to work best? How difficult are they to spin in the water box, 1st gear or 2nd? Etc. Never had DRs before. The car is taken out only in good weather and mostly weekends. __________________ GPI SS3 Cam & stuff,N.O. Plate(dedicated fuel tank,progressive,fuel hose upgrade,remote opener,heater,console switches),LNC2000,CTAP,ARH 1 7/8" LTs/gutted cats/X pipe/mufflers,Jet Hot coated LTs,GPI HPT Tune,CAI, Scoop,Rx Catch Can,Gates heater hose relocation, Remote clutch & auto brake res,Metco loop,Momentum Tunnel Brace,TSW Nurb 18",555 & 05,Pfadt trailing arms & toe rods,Autometer WB,Fesler Pillar Pod,LED strips (int),Lloyds floor & trunk mats,LED DRL/front turn & license plate,DRL harness,VLEDs tail lights,Plasticoat Bowties. Ord: Oct 5, 2009 Rec: Nov 19, 2009 13.17@112.6 stock

05-16-2014, 04:36 PM	#2
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	I run that combo only I have NT05Rs in back. I used to have 20" 555R's a year ago. Car drives great. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

06-06-2014, 10:11 AM	#5
Badbubba GrINned & JUICEd Drives: 15STI, 10Expy, 10 2SS/RS M6, 47KB1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,247	Impressions so far: Steering is heavier and requires slightly more effort. Handling feels improved. With the oem 20" Pirelli's, the steering felt "twitchy" at higher speeds and did not inspire confidence. Which may be in part to the FE3 suspension and shorter side walls. The car seems more stable on the straight ways and especially in the corners. Wheels are harder to clean, due to more places to wipe, and the backside, since it's tighter for your hand to fit through the front openings. Also, very little space between the caliper and wheel. Parking brake cable needed tied back, hose clamp. I do not have been the skates on my calipers, just stick on wheel weights. Almost no room between the wheel's weights and caliper's weights. Running at 36psi, no negatives so far with performance, sound or ride quality. __________________ GPI SS3 Cam & stuff,N.O. Plate(dedicated fuel tank,progressive,fuel hose upgrade,remote opener,heater,console switches),LNC2000,CTAP,ARH 1 7/8" LTs/gutted cats/X pipe/mufflers,Jet Hot coated LTs,GPI HPT Tune,CAI, Scoop,Rx Catch Can,Gates heater hose relocation, Remote clutch & auto brake res,Metco loop,Momentum Tunnel Brace,TSW Nurb 18",555 & 05,Pfadt trailing arms & toe rods,Autometer WB,Fesler Pillar Pod,LED strips (int),Lloyds floor & trunk mats,LED DRL/front turn & license plate,DRL harness,VLEDs tail lights,Plasticoat Bowties. Ord: Oct 5, 2009 Rec: Nov 19, 2009 13.17@112.6 stock

06-06-2014, 11:06 AM	#6
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Your 18's up front are lighter, steering should feel a bit lighter. I'm not saying way lighter, but I recall that stock fronts are maybe 62 and the new setup you have might be 55 each? __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

06-06-2014, 05:09 PM	#8
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	When I swap from my 20x8 snow tires 245s to my 18x9.5 + 265s it feels much lighter, and the steering input feels like I need less. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

05-17-2014, 01:12 PM	#4
SGOS252382 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: S.W. Florida Posts: 6,294	I've run this setup for a while and my car handles really well. I frequently take a section of road near my house (nice set of S turns) really aggressively and my car handles great (better than it did stock - probably due to the wider rubber front and back). You'll also be good to go in rain with new 555R drag tires. Just becareful when they get worn down and there's no tread left. Then they can get scary on wet roads (like trying to do 70 mph on the highway when its wet). My drag radials are bald and I had to slow down to about 50 mph (speed limit 70) because the road was wet. Mean while, all the other cars were flying by me doing 70mph. So it's new 555Rs or some rain tires for me for the summer. It rains here every day all summer. But like I said, when the 555Rs are new, they work fine in the rain.

06-06-2014, 08:26 PM	#9
rickyrocket Drives: 2015 blk 1 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Coventry RI Posts: 1,309	Wheres the pics? your teasing us ! __________________ 15 1 SS

06-06-2014, 11:43 PM	#11
Badbubba GrINned & JUICEd Drives: 15STI, 10Expy, 10 2SS/RS M6, 47KB1 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 1,247	Installed on a SIM Camaro. __________________ GPI SS3 Cam & stuff,N.O. Plate(dedicated fuel tank,progressive,fuel hose upgrade,remote opener,heater,console switches),LNC2000,CTAP,ARH 1 7/8" LTs/gutted cats/X pipe/mufflers,Jet Hot coated LTs,GPI HPT Tune,CAI, Scoop,Rx Catch Can,Gates heater hose relocation, Remote clutch & auto brake res,Metco loop,Momentum Tunnel Brace,TSW Nurb 18",555 & 05,Pfadt trailing arms & toe rods,Autometer WB,Fesler Pillar Pod,LED strips (int),Lloyds floor & trunk mats,LED DRL/front turn & license plate,DRL harness,VLEDs tail lights,Plasticoat Bowties. Ord: Oct 5, 2009 Rec: Nov 19, 2009 13.17@112.6 stock

08-24-2014, 09:10 PM	#12
NinoSS Drives: 2SS/RS CGM LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 1,619	Looks awesome!!! I might look into this as a drag set up. __________________ Current - 2018 NGM 1LE (LT4 conversion coming soon) SOLD 2010 LS3 / Vengeance stage I cam / CAI intake w/ADM race scoop / Dynatech LT's / Eaton Posi LPE-JRE 3.91's / L99 Corsa / ZL1 wheels / NT05 275/315