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Old 09-28-2011, 06:06 PM   #1
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Reverse reliability question. Is the camaro too reliable?

As of this morning I passed 20,000 miles in my car in 19 months. Which means I have 16K miles left on the warranty and another year or so to go.
My camaro has been rock solid with out a single squeak (except the Leather seat wrinkle issue that the dealer fixed).
Now the camaro is my first new car and by car the most technically advanced car I have owned. The amount of gadgets just scares me and as an engineer I know all electronics fail. I am not one of those guys that believes that domestic cars are any less reliable than Japanese cars and having owned Toyotas (used) I know that every car eventually breaks down.
Now my issue is since I have the warranty I WANT my car to break down so that I can get stuff fixed on the warranty. For example is my windshield wiper is eventually gonna fail might as well have it fail when its under warranty.

I want all my car's issues to be worked out NOW white its under warranty... Am I the only one who wants my car's ipod adapter, radio, seat mover thingie(my first car with electronic seats). Dammit I wont be happy until My steering wheel buttons (also a first for me) fail.

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Old 09-28-2011, 06:26 PM   #2
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As an engineer you'd prefer everything break on your car every 20k miles? My comment would be I don't want you to engineer anything for me.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:30 PM   #3
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Remember what mamma alwys said.....well at least my mother did............ "Be careful what you ask for ". Better yet, What Dad said.......well at least mine did ............." Wish in one hand and Crap in the other, you'll come to realize which one fills up the fastest, you won't like the results".............or better yet the Bible says. " Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find".......................problematically asking that something fail prematuarally precludes destinies hand playing things out, or may add a unknown variable causing the failure to spiral completely out of control.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:37 PM   #4
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Most issues tend to happen before warranty is up if you are taking proper care of the car (but also actually driving it and not grandma-ing it).

Beyond that, it should be clear until you start getting age related issues, which should take quite a while.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:30 PM   #5
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If something fails within the time-frame of your warranty, there's a good chance it'll fail again later on when it's not warrantied. Be careful what you wish for.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:32 PM   #6
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If you wanted a car with parts that fail after 20k miles, you should have bought a Kia.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:58 PM   #7
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You can always buy an extended warranty.
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:15 PM   #8
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:05 PM   #10
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My last car - 195K - no wiper issues. Damn - don't wish for it!

Today's cars are the most reliable ever constructed. There is no reason to expect anything to fail early, and by that I mean before about 100K.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:08 PM   #11
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As of this morning I passed 20,000 miles in my car in 19 months. Which means I have 16K miles left on the warranty and another year or so to go.
My camaro has been rock solid with out a single squeak (except the Leather seat wrinkle issue that the dealer fixed).
Now the camaro is my first new car and by car the most technically advanced car I have owned. The amount of gadgets just scares me and as an engineer I know all electronics fail. I am not one of those guys that believes that domestic cars are any less reliable than Japanese cars and having owned Toyotas (used) I know that every car eventually breaks down.
Now my issue is since I have the warranty I WANT my car to break down so that I can get stuff fixed on the warranty. For example is my windshield wiper is eventually gonna fail might as well have it fail when its under warranty.

I want all my car's issues to be worked out NOW white its under warranty... Am I the only one who wants my car's ipod adapter, radio, seat mover thingie(my first car with electronic seats). Dammit I wont be happy until My steering wheel buttons (also a first for me) fail.

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Is this the way all engineer's think? I hope not.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:09 PM   #12
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As an engineer you'd prefer everything break on your car every 20k miles? My comment would be I don't want you to engineer anything for me.



Chances are nothing will go wrong that isn't a wear item. You needn't worry over what could happen. Just enjoy the ride.
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My last car - 195K - no wiper issues. Damn - don't wish for it!

Today's cars are the most reliable ever constructed. There is no reason to expect anything to fail early, and by that I mean before about 100K.
that is usually fair to say with of course the right maintenance, and care. of course i would expect maybe a few little things. for example they replaced my blown speaker, and i needed a new key.
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Is this the way all engineer's think? I hope not.
Not all engineers think this way… This is a strange way of thinking if you ask me.

If it fails under warranty someone didn’t do their job right. If something fails early and is replaced with the same part… well it is probably going to fail again soon.

Generally speaking, electronics are more reliable than mechanical components. I’d even bet most electronic issues are cause because of a mechanical failure (lose ground lug, broken switch), not because the electronics 'stopped working'. The only electrical issue I ever had was on a Toyota and the alarm kept going off because the chassis ground connection had worked its way loose.

This isn’t to say there are sometimes compromises made to save cost such that an item may fail just outside of warranty. With no cost restrictions, however, things are typically way overdesigned to reduce the likelihood of failure over the life of the product.
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