03-22-2011, 03:07 PM | #29 |
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You will be FINE as long as you make certain your reassembly gets everything tight. If you are reusing the OE endlinks and nuts I suggest you use LocTite and place a hardened washer on the nut side. As alarming as the picture is, it isn't in any way a common failure. In a worst case full failure scenario the OE arm is available for under $50 shipped from numerous sources. Just get the endlink assemblies tight the first time and don't worry.
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03-22-2011, 03:42 PM | #30 |
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Just to be clear I was not ragging on PFADT springs, just pointing what I saw to PQ who was asking for feedback. At some point I will most likely have some of their products in my car.
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so if I install drop springs only, on my v6, will I run into a similar problem?
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03-22-2011, 04:21 PM | #36 |
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You are abusing your car.
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03-22-2011, 04:27 PM | #37 |
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Nah, he is driving it like he owns it
In some ways you are correct, but that is exactly why many of us bought a 5th Gen. We planned to abuse it, I mean use it, from day one. One of the things we don't do is check our nuts from one end of the car to the other on a routine basis. The cars are very fast stock with more brake HP than engine HP. With a few mods, they are running race car speeds, but for the most part maintained like a street car. Bottom line, if the nuts were tight this thread doesn't exists. |
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lol, I still don't have the answer to wether that's a crack or an OE slit.
I'm thinking I don't need them. Quote:
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I agree with Pete, 99% of all street cars will never have this happen unless a nut is left loose and the end link stud oblongs the hole. Every incident I have seen have been on hardcore cars that see a lot of drag strip use and are running larger diameter rear sway bars.
The sway bar end link mount is located approximately in the middle of the control arm. I assume it was designed this way primarily for packaging purposes as placing it further out on the control arm would have provided more controlled anti-roll characteristics from a much smaller sway bar. As it is, more rate is required to overcome the leverage, producing much more load on the sway bar mount. Keep in mind that the rear sway bar on the upcoming ZL1 is rumored to be much wider which would place these mounts further out on the control arms. Maybe this isn't such an isolated incident after all... Our dragrace anti-roll bar (will be released soon) is rated at 3614 lbs/in., that's 780% more than the OE bar. After a certain power level, it becomes necesarry to run high rear bar rates for launch consistency. These higher rates place a lot more load on this mount and since it is a single shear mount the 1/8" material just won't cut it. In summary, it is understandable in these conditions that there are failures but in a typical street car, I doubt it will ever be an issue providing the nuts are tight. |
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Leave it to me to tear it up so we can learn. Just doing my part. You guys are welcom. Oh. And Pete, or someone, is this a normal slit by design, or do I need to order another control arm as well? |
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03-22-2011, 04:43 PM | #41 |
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For what it's worth. I installed my pedders sways and coilovers on Saturday...
Made extra sure everything was tight. Went for about a 15 mile ride on Sunday. Drove to work on Monday and rechecked everything in the rear... I was chasing a rattle that turned out to be an exhaust hanger... All of my sway bar endlinks were lose and a couple other bolts had loosened up a bit... I'm gonna check the front tonight.. I'm guessing like header bolts... we'll need to recheck them a few times until these fasteners get a chance to seat... especially the DIY guys who don't have shop quality tools.
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I'll look at mine tonight bro, I'll see if there is a slot... I'm guessing based on what the pros are saying, it isn't supposed to be there.... Not if we are concerned about elongating the hole... it wouldn't make sense to put an "expansion" slot in there which would defeat the purpose if I understand the failure correctly.
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