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Old 03-13-2013, 12:11 AM   #99
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That beeing said, OP, youre gonna need a big ass cam, gear, weight reduction, Drag wheels and tires. Then you can bust him on the track. 5.0 has the advantage on the drag strip with the weight and solid axle. But they suck on the road course compared to the 1LE. Even the mighty Boss was easily beaten in every test against the 1LE, the Shelby was barely able to get a 0.34sec win on it at VIR. The Boss is a badass car...That would be my choice if going for a Mustang these days.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:34 AM   #100
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That beeing said, OP, youre gonna need a big ass cam, gear, weight reduction, Drag wheels and tires. Then you can bust him on the track. 5.0 has the advantage on the drag strip with the weight and solid axle. But they suck on the road course compared to the 1LE. Even the mighty Boss was easily beaten in every test against the 1LE, the Shelby was barely able to get a 0.34sec win on it at VIR. The Boss is a badass car...That would be my choice if going for a Mustang these days.
Who cares what a 1le can do on a road course lol He doesn't road race or have a 1le. I respect the fact that the 1le and zl1 are great road course cars but I don't see the relevance in this thread

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Old 03-13-2013, 12:39 AM   #101
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wnt2gofst, you are so full of shit. 10s with just bolt ons.

Let me guess. You were one of those guys that ran a 'chip' in your car right? lmao

I get surprised from time to time but 10s with tune/and air is just bullshit.
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Old 03-13-2013, 04:15 AM   #102
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There are 3 bolt on 5.0's that have gone 10's but I wouldnt consider them typical bolt on cars. All of them have weight taken out. I'm not talking about lighter weight componets either I'm talking about actual weight removed. Some of them and maybe all of them are running really aggressive E85 tunes as well which requires new injectors. If they put the weight back in they still would be very fast and run low 11's I would imagine. I am also sure all 3 did it just to see if they could because the expense was probably more than just bolting on a supercharger and running the same ET. Could a 5th gen SS do the same without removing a butt load of weight? Not a chance. What some dont realize is that some coyote tunes are able to take full advantage of their VVT so its like putting new cams in. They can also bolt a 15inch slick setup on without modification. It would take some serious money for us to do the same. Gear swap for that car is only about 400dollars. Gear swap for our car....1400dollars. the list goes on and on. It would be really expensive for a 5th gen owner to try and maximize a bolt on setup. Maybe even pointless.
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Old 03-13-2013, 04:45 AM   #103
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Dont try to argue with this guy, he just ruined the street racing and kill story of LS1tech with his BS. While you try to explain to him that your car isnt build for the 1/4, he will continu his BS. A well prepped 5th with weight reduction will give any 5.0 hard time.

Hes on the forum 24/7 at work and at home. Always showing the same vid millions of time in every thread. He really thinks hes the 5.0 'Jesus'. Hes just a troll. He doesnt post in damn video that involves a 5.0; then he follows with his bench racing art.

Thing is he just cant be honest; he always take the worst exemple for Camaros/GM and always the best for Ford with hidden/suspect weight/mod and say that all 5.0 runs the same time. Hes the ultimate fanboy.
Sounds like some one is butt hurt that Ford is doing stuff that GM isn't with there pony car.

And funny they are the fastest bolt on cars that are still.street legal. There is others on their heels, or with in a few tenths of them.

And I I'm far from on 24/7. I am on a few hours a day during breaks and what not.

But I'm glad you like to follow what I'm doing.

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Old 03-13-2013, 04:49 AM   #104
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wnt2gofst, you are so full of shit. 10s with just bolt ons.

Let me guess. You were one of those guys that ran a 'chip' in your car right? lmao

I get surprised from time to time but 10s with tune/and air is just bullshit.
Tune and air? That's not bolt ons. The cars all have boss intake/dull exhaust, Suspension, tunes, bigs/little's, some weight reduction, still have cats, cold air, auto have stalls, so yep bolt ons. No internal mods. The difference is these guys are maximizing setups. With great tunes. Most you see have BS American muscle tunes, or some other shifty tune. Only Rev car to 7000-7300 rpms with boss intake making it a waist of using it.



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Old 03-13-2013, 07:43 AM   #105
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I'm totally with you



Dont try to argue with this guy, he just ruined the street racing and kill story of LS1tech with his BS. While you try to explain to him that your car isnt build for the 1/4, he will continu his BS. A well prepped 5th with weight reduction will give any 5.0 hard time.

Hes on the forum 24/7 at work and at home. Always showing the same vid millions of time in every thread. He really thinks hes the 5.0 'Jesus'. Hes just a troll. He doesnt post in damn video that involves a 5.0; then he follows with his bench racing art.

Thing is he just cant be honest; he always take the worst exemple for Camaros/GM and always the best for Ford with hidden/suspect weight/mod and say that all 5.0 runs the same time. Hes the ultimate fanboy.
Ya I am on ls1 tech and remember him from last summer. Have not been over there in a wile, I gave up when he was talking bolton 5.0s running 10s... But his is blown and runs 10s We now have 2 guys running 10s cam only... I guess I can say that all cammed camaro's should run 10s now
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:44 AM   #106
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I dont take youtube videos in to consideration. Different tracks different times, different weather and different elevation. Not to mention different drivers. Mod them and race them and who ever wins who cares its fun regardless...
Exactly how I feel!
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:53 AM   #107
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Ya I am on ls1 tech and remember him from last summer. Have not been over there in a wile, I gave up when he was talking bolton 5.0s running 10s... But his is blown and runs 10s We now have 2 guys running 10s cam only... I guess I can say that all cammed camaro's should run 10s now
I didn't say all run 10's I said it is possible.

And 10.8@125 vs 10.39@133 is a big dif in ET and trap. Specially when comparing weight/trap/et etc. The one that went 10.87@125 with bolt ons weighs 3500lbs with drive. Its a base model at that. Mine weighs 3800lbs before I get in it. I am 205 now.

Same with the 5th gen. Not all are going to run 10's with cam only. But it is possible with right setup.

Again most 5.0 and SS's don't maximize their setups. They slap a cam in there car cause some shop said ya we made great power blah blah. They get it in installed then find out it did jack.
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Old 03-13-2013, 09:30 AM   #108
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:03 AM   #109
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Sounds like some one is butt hurt that Ford is doing stuff that GM isn't with there pony car.

And funny they are the fastest bolt on cars that are still.street legal. There is others on their heels, or with in a few tenths of them.

And I I'm far from on 24/7. I am on a few hours a day during breaks and what not.

But I'm glad you like to follow what I'm doing.

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Typical 'butt hurt' answer from you. 4th were running those times ten years ago. Nothing new here. I almost bought a 5.0 BTW. But I prefer the lsx engine because they are superior IMO and easuer to work on with endless modding possibility. Just have to remove some weight off the 5th gen and game on.

Your record holder is not even faster than the 4th gen n/a stock block record holder. Im a muscle car guy and like all v8 pony cars. But youre way too deep into this. You should relax and enjoy your badass car instead of arguing on all forums about how bad are gm and dodge and how perfect your almighty 5.0.
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I didn't say all run 10's I said it is possible.

And 10.8@125 vs 10.39@133 is a big dif in ET and trap. Specially when comparing weight/trap/et etc. The one that went 10.87@125 with bolt ons weighs 3500lbs with drive. Its a base model at that. Mine weighs 3800lbs before I get in it. I am 205 now.

Same with the 5th gen. Not all are going to run 10's with cam only. But it is possible with right setup.

Again most 5.0 and SS's don't maximize their setups. They slap a cam in there car cause some shop said ya we made great power blah blah. They get it in installed then find out it did jack.
Listen 10:30s @133-mph for your mods is fantastic, even better considering you are at full weight. There should be no argument here about how fast the 5.0 is whether it's a bolton or blown, they are just nasty.
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Ya I am on ls1 tech and remember him from last summer. Have not been over there in a wile, I gave up when he was talking bolton 5.0s running 10s... But his is blown and runs 10s We now have 2 guys running 10s cam only... I guess I can say that all cammed camaro's should run 10s now
Yep thats his way of thinking.

Since some 4th gen runs low 10 h/c and even 9s, I can say my car is a 9sec car!!! Cool!!
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:15 AM   #112
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Who cares what a 1le can do on a road course lol He doesn't road race or have a 1le. I respect the fact that the 1le and zl1 are great road course cars but I don't see the relevance in this thread
Well then who cares what run other cars than yours? So what is the point of talking about any other 5.0 shoulda coulda woulda in this thread? A 1LE has better diff/trans gearing, so if OP upgrade his SS with 1LE parts it will help him. So yes it has something to do with this thread.
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