MPG drop for the new Mustang. - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

huggercamaro21 · 09-12-2014, 07:43 AM

http://wot.motortrend.com/1409_offic...bers_fall.html

NASTY99Z28 · 09-12-2014, 09:38 AM

Pros - bump in power for the coyote
- strong numbers from the turbo 4

Cons- added weight
- less mpg's for both the v6 and v8
- less power for the v6

Seems to me like ford is gonna wait till the next fen camaro drops to do something drastic to improve power and mpg's so they can steal some thunder. As for the v6 it seems like ford has positioned it to force buyers towards a more profitable t4 or coyote

khell86 · 09-12-2014, 09:42 AM

The drop in EPA #'s is due to the tests being done with each model's performance gear option. The GT Manual EPA #'s are based off of its 3.73 gears and the Automatic is based of its 3.55 gears. Same thing for the V6.

I do believe that Ford will up these numbers substantially when the new camaro comes around. Look for ford to introduce direct injection and the 10 speed auto currently under develop in either the mid cycle refresh or the next model.

Ragnar · 09-12-2014, 09:54 AM

Also recently, Ford got spanked for releasing over rated MPG's. Still it's just a general guide. Some people will get better and some worse than what is mentioned for MPG.

87GNX · 09-12-2014, 10:35 AM

MPG means nothing for most 5.0 owners same as SS/1le owners......it's better known as Smiles Per Gallon.

shaffe · 09-12-2014, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragnar

Also recently, Ford got spanked for releasing over rated MPG's. Still it's just a general guide. Some people will get better and some worse than what is mentioned for MPG.

Isn't it the EPA that does the rating?

FenwickHockey65 · 09-12-2014, 11:00 AM

The EPA just provides oversight in most cases. From what I understand manufacturers set the majority of the FE estimates that go on the labels.

Basically the EPA just looks at it and says, "Eh yeah probably."

ssrs2lt · 09-12-2014, 11:28 AM

sandbagging by ford..

titanfan · 09-12-2014, 12:15 PM

Who cares? Who buys a pony car that is concerned about MPG? Really.

BlueRay2ss · 09-12-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 87GNX

MPG means nothing for most 5.0 owners same as SS/1le owners......it's better known as Smiles Per Gallon.

I like the "smiles per gallon" do you mind if I use it i general conversation?

*DGthe3* · 09-12-2014, 04:30 PM

I don't know what all the rules are, but I'm pretty sure that when it comes to things like gearing options, the manufacturer has to use whatever is expected to be the most popular choice in their rating.

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Originally Posted by shaffe

Isn't it the EPA that does the rating?

The EPA only tests a small percentage of new cars each year (somewhere between 5 and 10% I believe). The rest is done by the manufacturers, according to strict guidelines & procedures set up by the EPA. When a car is tested by the EPA its mostly done as a compliance check to see if the car achieves what the manufacturer claims.

shaffe · 09-15-2014, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

I don't know what all the rules are, but I'm pretty sure that when it comes to things like gearing options, the manufacturer has to use whatever is expected to be the most popular choice in their rating.

The EPA only tests a small percentage of new cars each year (somewhere between 5 and 10% I believe). The rest is done by the manufacturers, according to strict guidelines & procedures set up by the EPA. When a car is tested by the EPA its mostly done as a compliance check to see if the car achieves what the manufacturer claims.

Interesting. Thank your for the info

big hammer · 09-15-2014, 09:00 AM

and here we keep getting told that that 5.0 is so thuper duper efficient...

BobDigi5060 · 09-15-2014, 10:45 PM

I could not care less about mpg on a Mustang.

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FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	The EPA just provides oversight in most cases. From what I understand manufacturers set the majority of the FE estimates that go on the labels. Basically the EPA just looks at it and says, "Eh yeah probably." __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

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09-12-2014, 09:42 AM	#3
khell86 Drives: 2012 Ford Focus Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 394	The drop in EPA #'s is due to the tests being done with each model's performance gear option. The GT Manual EPA #'s are based off of its 3.73 gears and the Automatic is based of its 3.55 gears. Same thing for the V6. I do believe that Ford will up these numbers substantially when the new camaro comes around. Look for ford to introduce direct injection and the 10 speed auto currently under develop in either the mid cycle refresh or the next model.

09-12-2014, 09:54 AM	#4
Ragnar Destroyed by flooding Drives: Wife's car Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 4,673	Also recently, Ford got spanked for releasing over rated MPG's. Still it's just a general guide. Some people will get better and some worse than what is mentioned for MPG.

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titanfan Account Suspended Drives: Several in a big garage Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Nashville Posts: 628	Who cares? Who buys a pony car that is concerned about MPG? Really.

09-15-2014, 09:00 AM	#13
big hammer Drives: 2002 ws6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: manitoba Posts: 1,202	and here we keep getting told that that 5.0 is so thuper duper efficient... __________________ Bolt on 2002 ls1 Trans am--- 11.5 @ 121 (1.72) 2000 da

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BobDigi5060 Drives: 97' A4, 08' Mustang, 15' Legacy Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: TX Posts: 114	I could not care less about mpg on a Mustang.