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razorz28 · 05-26-2013, 12:04 AM

I've had a few cold weather situations that have made it hard to trust the traction of my car. I took the car on some twisters this week and wasn't able to push it as I just didn't trust the traction. How do I get over this it is frustrating.

DavidW · 05-26-2013, 12:14 AM

what is "cold" weather

KKreme15 · 05-26-2013, 12:41 AM

I was sliding around in some twisting at 64 degrees Fahrenheit

razorz28 · 05-26-2013, 12:44 AM

I haven't driven the car above 60 degrees yet.

KKreme15 · 05-26-2013, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorZL1

I haven't driven the car above 60 degrees yet.

Yeah. Car sticks like glue when it's over 75 degrees

Stephen12ZL1 · 05-26-2013, 05:54 AM

some heat in the tires makes a huge difference in confidence. These tires suck when cold as many have labeled them "hockey pucks"

derklug · 05-26-2013, 06:10 AM

Find a big open area(we have a minor league ballpark parking lot) and run it in a figure 8 until you lose it. You will find that your warm weather traction is well beyond the point of sphincter pucker.

MYDLIFECRISIS · 05-26-2013, 07:11 AM

Surprised the OP is having problems at 64*. I've heard from others I know with the Z that those F1's are like gumballs in good weather temps.

Lonny Doyle · 05-26-2013, 07:42 AM

Search for an autocross in your area, you will be able to push the car as hard as you want without the risk of hitting anything but cones.

At an autocross the track layout usually will not allow you to reach speeds more than 60 mph as compared to a road course with very high speeds.

If you spin out you will not be the only one. I have a couple of youtube videos that my son posted of me racing an autocross.

Search Youtube for "Lonny Zl1 autocross Texas".

This will help you gain some confidence in how hard you can push the traction and what you can recover from.

Normagene · 05-26-2013, 09:26 AM

Lonny D! Just watched a couple of your runs, OUTSTANDING, that looked like a lot of FUN.

cvp33 · 05-26-2013, 11:44 AM

The GY's do not like cold streets. I had the tires properly warmed and then went to my personal closed course. The back end tried to come around twice at around 10mph slower than my norm. Took it home and put it in the garage......live to fight another day. Michelin Super Sports should take care of that I would think.

IcePick06 · 05-26-2013, 01:25 PM

I came out the parking lot left hand turn in 75 degree weather and barely got on it and the back end whipped around and that was with TC on but not in any PTM mode. These tires aren't the best by any means

razorz28 · 05-26-2013, 02:32 PM

My tires slip under very little throttle between 50-60 degrees. It gives me an uneasy feeling driving aggressive. Looks like I need to try new tires?

RedWingsZL1 · 05-26-2013, 04:38 PM

These cars produce alot of TQ down low. Thats whats whipping you around.

05-26-2013, 12:04 AM	#1
razorz28 Drives: 2017 Jeep Rubicon, 2016 Z06 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Abbotsford B.C. Canada Posts: 547	Do you trust it? I've had a few cold weather situations that have made it hard to trust the traction of my car. I took the car on some twisters this week and wasn't able to push it as I just didn't trust the traction. How do I get over this it is frustrating.

05-26-2013, 05:54 AM	#6
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,808	some heat in the tires makes a huge difference in confidence. These tires suck when cold as many have labeled them "hockey pucks" __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

05-26-2013, 06:10 AM	#7
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	Find a big open area(we have a minor league ballpark parking lot) and run it in a figure 8 until you lose it. You will find that your warm weather traction is well beyond the point of sphincter pucker. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

05-26-2013, 07:11 AM	#8
MYDLIFECRISIS Drives: '12SS/2SS/45TH-'06 2500HD/Silverado Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 2,107 View My Garage	Surprised the OP is having problems at 64*. I've heard from others I know with the Z that those F1's are like gumballs in good weather temps. __________________ 2012 Camaro SS 2SS 45TH Anniversary Edition

05-26-2013, 07:42 AM	#9
Lonny Doyle Aerospace Machinist Drives: 2012 Victory Red ZL1 w/ ECF Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Red Oak,Texas Posts: 67	Search for an autocross in your area, you will be able to push the car as hard as you want without the risk of hitting anything but cones. At an autocross the track layout usually will not allow you to reach speeds more than 60 mph as compared to a road course with very high speeds. If you spin out you will not be the only one. I have a couple of youtube videos that my son posted of me racing an autocross. Search Youtube for "Lonny Zl1 autocross Texas". This will help you gain some confidence in how hard you can push the traction and what you can recover from. __________________

05-26-2013, 12:14 AM	#2
DavidW Drives: 2013 ZL1 Vert Auto IOM Join Date: May 2012 Location: Alberta Posts: 389	what is "cold" weather

05-26-2013, 12:41 AM	#3
KKreme15 Drives: C6 Z06 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dayton, MD Posts: 1,645	I was sliding around in some twisting at 64 degrees Fahrenheit

05-26-2013, 12:44 AM	#4
razorz28 Drives: 2017 Jeep Rubicon, 2016 Z06 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Abbotsford B.C. Canada Posts: 547	I haven't driven the car above 60 degrees yet.

05-26-2013, 09:26 AM	#10
Normagene Drives: 2013 Ashen Gray M6 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: South Eastern, Mass Posts: 2,615 View My Garage	Lonny D! Just watched a couple of your runs, OUTSTANDING, that looked like a lot of FUN.

05-26-2013, 11:44 AM	#11
cvp33 America FVCK Yeah! Drives: 2021 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Florence, SC Posts: 1,388	The GY's do not like cold streets. I had the tires properly warmed and then went to my personal closed course. The back end tried to come around twice at around 10mph slower than my norm. Took it home and put it in the garage......live to fight another day. Michelin Super Sports should take care of that I would think. __________________ 1997 Z28 Anniversary Edition *SOLD* 2004 GTO *ORDER CANCELLED* 2004 CTS-V *SOLD* 2005 CTS-V *SOLD* 2006 300C SRT-8 *SOLD* 2006 300C SRT-8 *SOLD* 2010 CTS-V *SOLD* 2012 CTS-V coupe *SOLD* 2013 ZL1 vert *SOLD* 2016 Callaway Z06 *SOLD* 2019 Z06 *SOLD* "I lived my life by one motto.......mottos are for losers" cvp33

05-26-2013, 01:25 PM	#12
IcePick06 Drives: '12 AGM ZL1 (SOLD); '07 Ducati 1098 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tha OCizzle Posts: 731	I came out the parking lot left hand turn in 75 degree weather and barely got on it and the back end whipped around and that was with TC on but not in any PTM mode. These tires aren't the best by any means __________________ My Toys: 2019 Audi RS5 Sportback 2007 Triumph Thruxton R 2012 ZL1 Coupe (M6) #80 (SOLD) 2007 Ducati 1098 (SOLD) 2006 Yamaha R6 (Track/Race Only )

05-26-2013, 02:32 PM	#13
razorz28 Drives: 2017 Jeep Rubicon, 2016 Z06 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Abbotsford B.C. Canada Posts: 547	My tires slip under very little throttle between 50-60 degrees. It gives me an uneasy feeling driving aggressive. Looks like I need to try new tires?

05-26-2013, 04:38 PM	#14
RedWingsZL1 Drives: 2013 AGM M6 ZL1, 2008 Tahoe LTZ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 372	These cars produce alot of TQ down low. Thats whats whipping you around. __________________ 2013 ZL1