New GT500's no joke! Mod up folks!!!

[RedWingsZL1]

It's still a Ford. It still costs more than a ZL1 when the OPTIONS on the Ford are matching the STANDARDS on the ZL1. So yea, for the extra money i would expect higher HP.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Ice Demon

So your saying 60 more hp and 50 more tq will not help.

In a 1/4 mile race? It would make the ZL1 faster but I doubt it would run down a GT500.

[bowtieguyvegas]

Originally Posted by Ice Demon

That's great power for a stock car. Chevy needs to put the ls9 in the zl1.

Or at least put the a 2300 series supercharger on the ZL1 in place of the 1900 it has now. I think she Shelby is running the 2300 correct me if i'm wrong.

Both are great American cars

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by DuskSS

10s is pretty slow these days for a "race car"

This is a list of Texas fast LSX's and it is fairly current.
These are the times I would be aiming for if I had the funds for a all out "race car"

20 Fastest LSx's in Texas

1) LMR/WORMBOY/Dave Lewis 7.24@209mph (Bi -Turbo)

2)LMR/WORMBOY 7.57@188 (single turbo)

3)LMR/WORMBOY 7.98 @175 (single turbo)

4)LMR/Pain/Vette/ 8.32@165.30 (Nitrous)

5)LMR/GOLDRUST 8.37 @173 (Bi-Turbo)

6) AgFormula02 8.57 at 154.47 (APS Kit)

7)SAM SS (School of Automotive Machinists 8.58 @157 (All Motor 4spd Manual)

8)KECHME 8.73 @156 (Nitrous)

9)Ls1Joe 8.86@154 All Motor

10)LMR/TheBlueGoose 8.9@156 TEXAS' FIRST LSX IN THE 8s

11)Mr Powell 8.9@151.43 (Nitrous

12)Elite Hot Rod 9.23@149(Nitrous)

13)TXCAMSS 9.39@141mph (ALL MOTOR/93 Pump gas)

14) LMR\Wormboy -First 2010 Camaro in the 9's 9.50 (F1R)

15)1320Vette 9.61 @ 141mph (Nitrous)

16)SuperZ 9.66 at 145mph (Turbo)

17)Texas Speed & Performance 9.66 @ 131mph (Stock Bottom End LS1, NA)

18)Glenn Bray\longoria racecars\firebird02ta 9.69 @ 137mph (Nitrous)

19)Jay Johnson 9.77 @ 134mph (ALL MOTOR)

20)Minytrker 9.79@101 (Nitrous)

A 10 second daily driver is more impressive to me than an 8 second fully built race car especially when you consider that there are some 9 second daily drivers out there these days. In fact, there are some "True Street" cars that have dipped into the high 8's. And you have to remember that with some rules in some brackets some race cars are only going to be so fast. A "race car" is not determined by how fast it is. It is a race car because it is used to race. Even if it's a 15 second car.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by bowtieguyvegas

Or at least put the a 2300 series supercharger on the ZL1 in place of the 1900 it has now. I think she Shelby is running the 2300 correct me if i'm wrong.

Both are great American cars

Plus 1 on last comment.

[Unobtainium]

Yeah, I was pretty surprised. Big numbers. Modded these things will be after ZR-1's.
What will Chevy do with the next ZR-1?
Hopefully 700.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by Unobtainium

Yeah, I was pretty surprised. Big numbers. Modded these things will be after ZR-1's.
What will Chevy do with the next ZR-1?
Hopefully 700.

I don't think the ZR1s have anything to worry about. Pedders pretty much pegged the limits of the S197 3 years ago, the only thing that is left with this platform is to throw horsepower at it to try and make up for the limits of running a 10 year old chassis with a live rear axle. GT500s have hit 8s in street trim, but they will never be an all around sports car at the level the Z06 and the ZR1 are. Maybe with the next generation GT500 (or whatever replaces it) we will see 650+hp levels + a well sorted IRS + better weight distribution + tires to match power output + lighter and stronger chassis...but time will tell. Knowing Ford, they will get most things right, but f**k up one important one that matters the most. I would be happy with a 3400lb Mustang with an IRS and a N/A 500hp 5.4/5.8 or even the current 5.0.

[The Baron]

Say what you want.. FIND me a gt500 that will run a number without slicks and suspension work...

and I dont know how you do you "stages" but a header, 2.38 pulley and a cold air on a lsa will make WELL into the 620s..the 13 gt500s are very well endowed from ford.. 15#s of boost from the factory. Factory cold air, factory big throttle bodys and a 2.3...

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by The Baron

Say what you want.. FIND me a gt500 that will run a number without slicks and suspension work...

and I dont know how you do you "stages" but a header, 2.38 pulley and a cold air on a lsa will make WELL into the 620s..the 13 gt500s are very well endowed from ford.. 15#s of boost from the factory. Factory cold air, factory big throttle bodys and a 2.3...

What do you consider, "a number"

A gt500 with pulley, header and tune will put down over 700whp.

[Deki]

@The Baron... Plus forged internals. It's a great engine.


Trademaster, I thought that just pulley, tune and X-pipe was needed for 700whp?

[BlackinBlack]

Originally Posted by The Baron

Say what you want.. FIND me a gt500 that will run a number without slicks and suspension work...

and I dont know how you do you "stages" but a header, 2.38 pulley and a cold air on a lsa will make WELL into the 620s..the 13 gt500s are very well endowed from ford.. 15#s of boost from the factory. Factory cold air, factory big throttle bodys and a 2.3...

Originally Posted by trademaster

What do you consider, "a number"

A gt500 with pulley, header and tune will put down over 700whp.

The number Baron is discussing the 1/4 mile. All the power in the world means nothing if you cannot put it to the ground. A 600+ HP car with a manual, street / road course tuned suspension and street tires is going to have a very hard time putting the power to the ground. You might get a hero run or two but it will be darn near impossible to make the car consistent without drag suspension and slicks. (Ideally the car should be an auto too.)

People dog the ZL1 but the car has the power to run 11s all day long. Even with the crappy 580HP (I laugh at people hating on the HP) the car makes it is hard to get the car to deliver good ETs and the ZL1 has wider tires, better traction management, and the option of an auto that the more powerful GT500 does not have.

That being said a 13 GT500 with suspension setup for drag racing (the live axle is better for this to start.) and a set of slicks and skinnies the car should run 10s all day long if the driver is good.

[2010SLVRBULIT]

find me a 'streetable' race car, that's what's impressive.

[72MachOne99GT]

I get confused by some of the logic posted in assorted forums.

for instance, people dog (not here in particular) the GT500 for having what it does *being a well endowed supercharged 5.8 motor from th3 factory* and perhaps unintentionally make it sound as if theyre discrediting th3 fact that the car makes 600ish hp factory but only runs mid 11s and high 11s on average from the factory.

everyone is aware of its traction issues *most 600 hp cars have them* and talks about how easy it is to match a different car when modded appropriately.

a set of tires and nothing else puts these cars into the 10.9x range, which when considering the price range *55,9xx* is impressive.

[trademaster]

Originally Posted by BlackinBlack

The number Baron is discussing the 1/4 mile. All the power in the world means nothing if you cannot put it to the ground. A 600+ HP car with a manual, street / road course tuned suspension and street tires is going to have a very hard time putting the power to the ground. You might get a hero run or two but it will be darn near impossible to make the car consistent without drag suspension and slicks. (Ideally the car should be an auto too.)

People dog the ZL1 but the car has the power to run 11s all day long. Even with the crappy 580HP (I laugh at people hating on the HP) the car makes it is hard to get the car to deliver good ETs and the ZL1 has wider tires, better traction management, and the option of an auto that the more powerful GT500 does not have.

That being said a 13 GT500 with suspension setup for drag racing (the live axle is better for this to start.) and a set of slicks and skinnies the car should run 10s all day long if the driver is good.

2013 gt500s have gone 9s on stock suspension. Is that considered "a number?" Where do you guys get this stuff? Slicks and skinnies with drag suspension my ass, a decent drag radial will put one of those cars in the low 11s-high 10s all day long. A guy on the 'vette forums ran an 11.2 at 128 his first day with his on drag radials, completely stock otherwise.