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GothamCamaro · 10-07-2008, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

80 bucks...or 180...I forget what they told me. You cannot just get it copied, the car won't start...

Putting money aside for extra key just in case.

GMC_Legacy · 10-08-2008, 03:44 AM

So, does this mean I can forget about the aftermarket security system?

Also, anyone know if the car comes with one or two keys?

Thanks!

rlg3 · 10-08-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by headpunter

to be honest never scene it,

i do like the sounds of all the security on the car. i had my truck broken into and maybe this is why they didnt steal it....GG GM

That's cause Robocop came out in 1987 and were you even alive yet headpunter? We finally found something you don't know about

your a great source of info on the Camaro

Don't go watch the movie it was cool as hell when it came out but it has not held up very well over time.

Chewy · 10-08-2008, 11:50 AM

it should come w/ @ least 2 keys (i've never seen a new car NOT come w/ a spare or 2)

as for the costs - i don't know specifically but i'd bet on over $80 for a new one w/ activation @ the dealership

I used to copy keys @ a hardware store and had to send people to their dealer all the time. i did learn something from a few customers tho

you can ussually buy a BLANK on ebay for fairly cheap (HAS the chip, just not tuned to a car), take it to the hardware store and have it copied for a couple dollars, and then have the dealership program it.

as long as its a standard car key and not a laser cut this works, i've done it.

rlg3 · 10-08-2008, 12:21 PM

one question if this system is so great why is it not on all new cars?

lalometalik · 10-08-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlg3

That's cause Robocop came out in 1987 and were you even alive yet headpunter? We finally found something you don't know about

your a great source of info on the Camaro

Don't go watch the movie it was cool as hell when it came out but it has not held up very well over time.

HP = very informative

headpunter · 10-08-2008, 12:57 PM

was born that year /blushes

and i believe as a system all the cars in gm's lineup are equiped with some sort of passkey system, that does not stop people from stealing whats inside the vehicle though

Txturbo · 10-08-2008, 04:11 PM

Unless the new PassKey is better than the one in the 4th gens, I wouldn't trust it that much. The one in the 4th gens is pretty easy to bypass.

MerlinZero · 10-08-2008, 04:27 PM

Yeah,

As Gotham states, there are gremlins... My mom has a 2003 Malibu, and the immobilizer has gone off 3 times since we bought the car. What the immobilizer is, is a system that will let the engine turn over for about 5 seconds and then it cuts out. And after 3 attempts like that, the system goes into lockdown. It won't even turn over anymore.

We've had to have the car towed back to the dealer to have them fix it.

Robert91RS · 10-08-2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo

Unless the new PassKey is better than the one in the 4th gens, I wouldn't trust it that much. The one in the 4th gens is pretty easy to bypass.

The VATS key your refuring to is just using a resistor to verify the real key has been inserted. There is 15 different resistance values/"chips". The new security keys have a transponder inbedded in the base of the key and to program it to your car you usualy just insert the old key and start the car, then remove it and insert the new key and start it. Word of advise, always get a copy of your keys made before you lose them! I promise it will save you time and money.

69er · 10-10-2008, 08:12 PM

Here's pretty good explanation of the system:

http://www.pdqforensics.com/sec410010.html

zforce · 10-29-2008, 10:15 PM

I guess I can kiss the keyless entry and pushbutton start option good buy. love the fact that you can start the car without using the key like in the NISSANS.

Evilangel · 11-01-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Txturbo

Unless the new PassKey is better than the one in the 4th gens, I wouldn't trust it that much. The one in the 4th gens is pretty easy to bypass.

From what I've read it sounds better.

SimC33 · 11-01-2008, 02:45 PM

Ok well let me throw a curveball at those of you that know about the VATS....My fourth gen was recently stolen and the VATS system didnt work worth shit...the car was broken into and hot wired allowing them to drive away without a key...

SOOOOO, is it gonna be this easy for them to steal the 5th gen now? Cause I'm a little worried about a 36k car being stolen so easily? Anyone have ideas of how to protect the car? I live in an apt so there is no way of putting it in a garage

10-08-2008, 12:57 PM	#21
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,747 View My Garage	was born that year /blushes and i believe as a system all the cars in gm's lineup are equiped with some sort of passkey system, that does not stop people from stealing whats inside the vehicle though __________________ Stop Whinging

10-08-2008, 04:11 PM	#22
Txturbo Keeper of the Faith Drives: 2001 Z28 Agressively Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rosenberg,Texas Posts: 1,383 View My Garage	Unless the new PassKey is better than the one in the 4th gens, I wouldn't trust it that much. The one in the 4th gens is pretty easy to bypass. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS R6P 2001 Camaro Z28 1969 Camaro SS clone

10-29-2008, 10:15 PM	#26
zforce Drives: 2010 2SS RS Inferno Matelic Orange Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chicago, IL. Posts: 137	I guess I can kiss the keyless entry and pushbutton start option good buy. love the fact that you can start the car without using the key like in the NISSANS. __________________ I've only been brave enough to hit 115 mph in my Camaro.

10-08-2008, 03:44 AM	#16
GMC_Legacy Destiny Cometh Drives: 2001 Chevy Lumina (160k miles) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort Riley Posts: 8	So, does this mean I can forget about the aftermarket security system? Also, anyone know if the car comes with one or two keys? Thanks!

10-08-2008, 11:50 AM	#18
Chewy My boredom isn't safe Drives: 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,224 View My Garage	it should come w/ @ least 2 keys (i've never seen a new car NOT come w/ a spare or 2) as for the costs - i don't know specifically but i'd bet on over $80 for a new one w/ activation @ the dealership I used to copy keys @ a hardware store and had to send people to their dealer all the time. i did learn something from a few customers tho you can ussually buy a BLANK on ebay for fairly cheap (HAS the chip, just not tuned to a car), take it to the hardware store and have it copied for a couple dollars, and then have the dealership program it. as long as its a standard car key and not a laser cut this works, i've done it.

10-08-2008, 12:21 PM	#19
rlg3 Drives: 2010 Chevy Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 271 View My Garage	one question if this system is so great why is it not on all new cars?

10-08-2008, 04:27 PM	#23
MerlinZero Big Orange Drives: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent, WA Posts: 1,170 View My Garage	Yeah, As Gotham states, there are gremlins... My mom has a 2003 Malibu, and the immobilizer has gone off 3 times since we bought the car. What the immobilizer is, is a system that will let the engine turn over for about 5 seconds and then it cuts out. And after 3 attempts like that, the system goes into lockdown. It won't even turn over anymore. We've had to have the car towed back to the dealer to have them fix it.

10-10-2008, 08:12 PM	#25
69er Drives: 69 Z/28 , 83 Z/28 (L69), 10 2SS CGM Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alamogordo, New Mexico Posts: 281	Here's pretty good explanation of the system: http://www.pdqforensics.com/sec410010.html

11-01-2008, 02:45 PM	#28
SimC33 Drives: 2001 Blk/Blk M6 Camaro SS #899 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 482	Ok well let me throw a curveball at those of you that know about the VATS....My fourth gen was recently stolen and the VATS system didnt work worth shit...the car was broken into and hot wired allowing them to drive away without a key... SOOOOO, is it gonna be this easy for them to steal the 5th gen now? Cause I'm a little worried about a 36k car being stolen so easily? Anyone have ideas of how to protect the car? I live in an apt so there is no way of putting it in a garage