CARB/SMOG Long Tube Headers

[oc2ssrs]

Whats up fellow gear heads. Ok so I am hearing a few different things on this subject and obviously I know what every retailer says, but... With the new Cali laws that came out this year in regards to SMOG can Long Tube Headers be ran on a car if you pass the SNIFF test since the Visual does not need to be performed or am i notified incorrectly? I was told by a trusted shop of mine that lately long tube headers have been passing as long as they pass the sniff test because tyhen the visual does not matter as long as the car is not polutting.

[DemonZL1]

nah, everything installed on the car must be CARB approved and have an EO number stamped on it or come with the appropriate decal.

[Mindz]

Longtubes will fail the visual inspection. If the shop looks the other way and doesn't mind as long as the car passes the sniffer, then you're good.

If the shop looks the other way however, they are putting their job on the line, so it's not easy to find a shop like that.

[RedVborn]

The new system that cali has to smog cars is there is no more emssion test its all visual and function like if the check engine light is on or monitors are incomplete it will nt pass and carb legal EO# must be on any after market component this new system is for 2000 and newer cars

[SS PANTHER]

Originally Posted by RedVborn

The new system that cali has to smog cars is there is no more emssion test its all visual and function like if the check engine light is on or monitors are incomplete it will nt pass and carb legal EO# must be on any after market component this new system is for 2000 and newer cars

This. No more sniffer test. Actually what would be worse if you got pulled over prior to the smog test and the officer found you were out of compliance he could send you to the state referee in which you would have to fix it before you could drive it again.

[SSteven]

I may end up moving to Cali over the next few years and I have lt headers and hf cats.

I've considered registering the car here in Texas my dads name but im thinking that wont fly long term.

Another option is to put stock cats/headers back and get smog tested. Then put lt headers back on.

Final option is to get carb approved shorties, but I'll lose hp and need a new tune.

For those with experience in Cali, what do you think?

[CMYarb]

Keep it registered in Texas. I kept mine registered in VA the whole time I was there. It will save you money, especially if you have long tubes, etc. California has downright silly smog laws.

[jeffa]

Remember, for new car sales, the car does not have to be tested for 6 years from the date of sale for year 2000 and up (I believe) vehicles. I haven't owned a car here long enough to ever get it emissions tested.

And, Cali has a requirement that you have 90 days to register an out of state vehicle or you will be fined if caught...not sure what the fine is.

[DemonZL1]

5 years for first owner. if resold, has to be smogged then it's a smog every 2 years but registration paid every year.

[DemonZL1]

to "legally" drive in the state as a resident, yes.

[Aldo68]

Owners of vehicles six or less model years old will pay an annual smog abatement fee for the first six registration years instead of being required to provide a biennial smog certification.

When you transfer a vehicle that is four or less model years old a smog certification is not required. (Determine the oldest-qualifying year model by subtracting three from the current year.) The four or less model years old rule does not apply to diesel powered vehicles. A smog transfer fee will be collected from the new owner . When a vehicle is more than four model years old, a seller must provide evidence of a current smog certification except when one of the following occurs:

• The transfer occurs between a spouse, domestic partner, sibling, child, parent, grandparent, or grandchild.
• A biennial smog certification was submitted to DMV within 90 days prior to the vehicle transfer date (a vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification).

Smog certifications are good for 90 days from the date of issuance.

Straight from The DMV Website

[DemonZL1]

good post !

[SS PANTHER]

Originally Posted by SS PANTHER

This. No more sniffer test. Actually what would be worse if you got pulled over prior to the smog test and the officer found you were out of compliance he could send you to the state referee in which you would have to fix it before you could drive it again.

Originally Posted by Aldo68

Owners of vehicles six or less model years old will pay an annual smog abatement fee for the first six registration years instead of being required to provide a biennial smog certification.

When you transfer a vehicle that is four or less model years old a smog certification is not required. (Determine the oldest-qualifying year model by subtracting three from the current year.) The four or less model years old rule does not apply to diesel powered vehicles. A smog transfer fee will be collected from the new owner . When a vehicle is more than four model years old, a seller must provide evidence of a current smog certification except when one of the following occurs:

• The transfer occurs between a spouse, domestic partner, sibling, child, parent, grandparent, or grandchild.
• A biennial smog certification was submitted to DMV within 90 days prior to the vehicle transfer date (a vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification).

Smog certifications are good for 90 days from the date of issuance.

Straight from The DMV Website

This is true. But, as I stated before in a previous post, if, you get pulled over for speeding, excessive noise, even tinting or no front license plate the LEO can make you pop your hood, get the mirrors out to look under to check your cats or headers and they can write you up and send you to the state referee to have it verified that everything was changed and fixed before you can drive your car again. It has happened to some forum members, and try arguing with an officer and going to court to fight it that you were pulled over for no license plate and that has nothing to do with emissions. Your time and money. That is why everything on the outside of my car is legal.

[beany323]

Also if you are "nudged" into a random smog check (on the road) you can decline to volunteer correct? Happened to someone on forums and I think you don't have to.