09-26-2012, 03:35 AM | #1 | |
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NFL Refs Lockout..........
So there has been no thread dedicated to this.
What is your opinion on the lockout? Economics Performance Effects etc............................. Here is an e-mail I had sent to my dad and others talking about this. Won't come as much surprise to some. How bout some of your feelings on it as well. Quote:
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And yet the ones who are trained to do it were called in to replace the locked out refs and they seem to be screwing it up pretty well.
Edit : Actually, the ones that the NFL got are just beneath the top tier college guys. The NFL didn't want to bring in the top line college refs and make them scabs or bring them away from their already appointed NCAA football games. So the ones that were brought in are a collection of low tier college and high school referees and a few discarded from the Lingerie League. Quote:
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Also throw in the fact that most of the time, the referees have to travel to various cities and to work games. As far as I can find out, the refs are responsible for the travel/accommodations while on the road. Plus they don't choose the games, the NFL chooses the games for them. Quote:
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09-26-2012, 05:25 AM | #3 |
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fact of the matter, they are still the least paid officials of any professional sport.
They don't want to lose their pention and go with 401k, to leave it up to the stock market for their retirement. They don't want to have to quit their regular jobs to get paid LESS than what they are getting paid now, to officiate. How does that make any sense for the refs? lol That would be like me working my full time job, making 60k a year, have a part time job at Lowe's, making 20k a year, lowes telling me i should quit my full time job, and start working for them for 15k a year, oh, and the pention is now gone, you get 401k now. If the owners want to keep the crap officials they have now, for the unforeseeable future, then by all means, go for it, but expect a lot more bad games to be called, and a lot bigger chance of injuries to happen. Not to mention all the fighting going on between coaches and refs, and players and refs. The whole moral of professional football will go to shit, imo. the way i see it, if the owners are getting paid more, the players are getting paid more, the coaches are getting paid more, why not the refs? and as long as everyone is making more money, then why wouldn't they pay the refs more? I can understand if paying the refs more money would mean the owners would be making less, that wouldn't fly, but that's not what's happening. edit: sure, 140+ thousands sounds like a shit load of money, especially for part time, but if you make that much part time, i'm sure your lifestyle will be pretty high, so your way of life would have to change drastically, to make less than that, and lose your full time job. i would think.
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I think they're overpaid.... that's as far as my opinion on the matter goes.
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Oh, you mean like the majority of the rest of the country??? Pensions are a thing of the past.
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09-26-2012, 08:17 AM | #6 |
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I agree with just about everything in PQ's post.
The only thing I would say is that I bet most officials would rather be out on the field officiating instead of sitting on their hands on strike while watching the games on TV. But because they're in a union, they can't go against their union boss otherwise they get kicked to the curb. This is the primary reason I despise unions as a whole. They're counter-productive and they only hurt whatever they touch.
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All the while they are working their way up, they are getting paid. NOT paying as my med school reference implied. Quote:
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When and how much of a raise, bonus or salary do you make in the last 3 years.
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But, me and Bonnie are the only ones that we can cut so it wouldn't be too bad. I don't suppose the players and refs would take pay cuts if the profits dropped. Of course not. |
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umm....the product is suffering. lol
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09-26-2012, 06:20 PM | #11 |
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Time will tell.
Again, the refs have been the biggest problem for years. The game will only suffer if it becomes an ongoing problem. Which it wouldn't. These refs would get better. Viewership in not down at all. In fact, scoring and viewership is up. By the time the product suffers the new refs would be much better and would only get better from there. But, if it didn't then you'd have a point. And the NFL would have to make a decision. But looks like they already have. Not sure the deal but from what I understand it's pretty much done. |
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As to the comment of being the lowest paid professional officials... Baseball officials can work upwards of 160 regular season games a year, some of these being double headers...
Basketball officials can work upwards of 70 regular season games a year... Football officials work 16 regular season games a year if they work every week... TV ratings are probably up right now due to people wanting to see the next bone head call.... As for the officials and the bad rap they are getting right now.... Don't think for a minute some of the problem is with the players and coaches themselves... There is an inordinate amount of tester one at any major football event and these guys calling the game are not used to it on this level... The tester one laden athletes and coaches are quick to take advantage of it... In any form or fashion they can... Intimidation, and or outright cheap play... There was a football team that held spring training at a University very close to my home, and if would sicker you to hear of some of the atrocious acts these "professional" athletes committed... In baseball, officials have the ability to toss players when they act like some of the current "professional" football players are acting.. I wish football officials used the same mentality... Toss then M and make them sit a game in addition to the one they were tossed from... And the same applies to coaches.... If an official is touched or if a coach drops an "f" bomb or cussed the officials, then they are sent packing as well... These officials are trying to assist and allow the season to continue... the current debacle needs to be blamed on the source... The players and officials and coaches in the trenches.... The plates fans and coaches are not perfect... Why should them officials have too be... How about we do away with them altogether and have dozens of cameras set up all over too capture every possible angle and then review every single play... In baseball, a player can be paid millions of dollars a year to hit a ball... And a player can be paid millions to prevent the ball being hit... Neither of them are close to perfect.. Yet hitting the ball three time out of ten nets you millions.. An ERA of seven or eight earns you the same millions... I'm rambling now but the point is.... Quit griping about the replacement officials and look at where the problem lies...
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