08-18-2010, 12:46 PM | #1 |
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HELP WITH CLEANING WINDOWS
I'm really good at detailing and paint care but can't for the life of me, make my windows clean and streak free.....
somebody has the proper procedure, please share..... |
08-18-2010, 12:48 PM | #2 |
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08-18-2010, 01:20 PM | #3 |
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user our Detail Addict Glass Cleaner and spray GOOD amount of it onto the surface. It's alcohol and ammonia free so don't worry about the paint and tint
use just about any short hair MF to clean off the major stuff then come back again with our Detail Addict Glass Towel (blue) to clean and buff off the blue glass mf towel prevent the streaking, but i do feel that regular mf like the Costco ones pick up big dirt better. Last edited by DetailAddict; 08-18-2010 at 02:58 PM. |
08-18-2010, 01:52 PM | #4 |
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I just use this with cheap paper towels. Never have a problem unless I use nicer/softer paper towels.
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08-18-2010, 02:16 PM | #6 |
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I recently got a detail kit from Adams, with their glass cleaner....
Now Im like you... I HATE HATE HATE cleaning windows, and used to pay someone to clean them for me. Not anymore!! This stuff is friggin AWESOME!. Its actually super easy to get clean, streak free windows, even at night, with those bright yellow lights. Highly recommend Adams products! Jason |
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08-18-2010, 02:52 PM | #8 |
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I use Adams glass cleaner and glass towels now. I too HATED having to do the windows on any of my cars. Now that I went with the Adam's cleaners it is literally effortless to get them looking great. 1 tip i recommend is to clean the windows when it is cool outside or pull the car into a shaded area or garage if you have one and do it there. It really helps in the cleaning process if the glass is cool.
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Everything I ever used would just streak or smear, especially the inside of the rear glass where you can't really get to it, until I tried a microfiber towel. I use Eagle 1 foam glass cleaner applied with a blue paper shop towel and wipe with a MF towel and it comes out perfect every time.
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08-18-2010, 05:17 PM | #10 |
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I just bought that Stoners Invisible glass stuff and using an MF towel to wipe away, it left all my windows heavily streaked. I went over the windows a few times with the MF and it looked ok but an hour later they were all super streaky.
I guess paper towel is the way to go? |
08-18-2010, 05:26 PM | #11 |
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any glass cleaner with a short haired MF towel followed by a glass MF towel is they way to go... be sure the glass is not in direct sunlight too!
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08-18-2010, 06:19 PM | #12 |
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I'm on the Adam's bandwagon
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08-18-2010, 07:13 PM | #13 |
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Window cleaning has always been a big challenge for both detailers and car washes. It’s an area where customers demand perfection, but more times than not, they are dissatisfied with the look of their glass. We all try to provide streak free and crystal clear glass, but streaking is a huge concern. We need to understand many variables that cause window streaks, have a good technique, and use quality cleaners and towels to produce perfect windows every time.
What causes streaks? Streaks are caused by a number of things. Some are easily controlled. Some are not. Let’s take a look at the causes. * Window cleaner- You have to be aware of what type of window cleaner you are using to avoid streaks. Many window cleaners contain a combination of ingredients that will clean, but may also cause steaks. Those ingredients may be alcohol, ammonia, and detergents. Depending on how fast or slow these ingredients evaporate and how highly concentrated they are found in the window cleaner, you may have streaking problems. The residue from these ingredients will sometimes dry and evaporate on the glass before your window towel can remove them. Window cleaners need to be properly diluted. More is not better. The higher the concentration level is of your cleaner, the greater possibility for streaking exists. Once you know you have the correct dilution of window cleaner and you know the cleaner is not the source of streaking, there are still other areas to examine for streaks.
Window cleaning folk lore Some people think they have magic formulas for window cleaning such as special cleaners or special towels. It is true that you need great cleaner and really good towels to clean windows. Some people have subscribed to the theory that you do not need a window cleaning towel at all. Many people, in many window cleaning situations, used to use newspaper to clean windows with very good results. There was a reason for this. Newspaper is very absorbent and lint free. Also, it’s virtually cost free and plentiful. When a piece gets too saturated, simply grab a new sheet. It seemed to work well. But there was a logical reason for this. The newsprint, the ink used on the newspaper, used to be kerosene based. Kerosene is a terrific cleaner. It also does not evaporate very easily. So many people used to simply spray some water on a glass surface, clean and wipe it with newspaper and they produced streak free windows. However, the ink in newspaper is no longer kerosene based, so newspaper simply is not as effective as it used to be. And although it is very absorbent, it’s very difficult to hold and get flat surfaces to wipe across the glass. You generally need to scrunch the newspaper up in your hand. By doing this, it’s very easy to miss certain spots like corners. These missed spots can be streaks, or dirt and haze that never gets fully cleaned off the surface. So, in my opinion, newspaper is not a good choice of window cleaning towel. Towel choices Before we talk about which are the correct towels to use, let’s make sure we know what towels not to use. Paper towels are not a good choice. They are absorbent, but many people continue to use the same piece even after its soaking wet. They also will leave a lot of lint. The same also hold true for napkins, tissues, old T shirts, handkerchiefs, etc. We need to have the correct towels to do a great job. I use a combination of different towels. We all agree that micro fiber is the best choice for cleaning. However, some micro fiber towels do not absorb water very well and this is problematic in window cleaning. A regular micro fiber towel tends to push the liquid around the glass and never get absorbed in the towel. You need a towel that not only will clean, but will also be absorbent. With that in mind, I will use a surgical towel to perform the cleaning part of the process, and I use a waffle weave micro fiber towel to use as a final buff towel to ensure any and all residue has been wiped off. A surgical towel is 100% cotton but lint free. It’s very absorbent, but also has some bite to it, so it will dig in and clean the glass. The waffle weave micro fiber towel is much more absorbent than regular micro fiber, so it will absorb any residual moisture and also buff the glass clean. Before you start The first thing to look for in cleaning windows is if there is any glue residue from old decals or stickers on the glass. If so, use an older towel to remove the glue and keep your actual window towels clean. You never want any glue on your towels as that will smear all over the glass you are trying to clean. There are some things that need to be done before you start to clean the glass. You need your towels nearby. You can’t spray the glass, walk around looking for a towel, take a phone call, have a drink, and then clean the glass. It just won’t work. You need to be ready to go. Next, the towel needs to be folded correctly to be able to perform its job. Most towels are approximately 16×16 inches. If you fold it across twice, you will have an 8×8 towel which fits perfectly in your hand and will give you a good cushion, be more absorbent, and allow you to easily maneuver the towel around the glass. The technique My cleaning window towel is the surgical towel. My buffing window towel is the waffle weave micro fiber that will finish off and buff the glass. My towels are pre-folded and ready to go. I will spray the window cleaner directly on the glass to wet and emulsify the dirt and haze that accumulates. The cleaner should cover almost all of the glass, but not start to run down the surface. Immediately after spraying the glass I will clean the glass with my cleaning window towel. First you want to box out the area and cover all 4 corners of the glass and really make sure the towel gets into those tight corners. Then you want to overlap your stokes by about 50% in either a back and forth or up and down motion and cover the entire surface. You do not want to move in a circular direction because areas may be missed this way. If you’re cleaning towel starts to get too dirty or too wet, open up the folded towel and use a fresher side. There is no need to wipe the window totally dry with this towel. With a little moisture still left on the glass, quickly switch to your buffing window towel to absorb and buff the remaining moisture. This process may seem like extra work, but it ensures that the glass will be as streak free and as perfect as possible. Which window gets cleaned first? Your choice of which window to start with is totally arbitrary, but I do have an opinion and hopefully a logical explanation of where to begin. I begin with the front windshield. This is a fairly difficult glass to clean on most vehicles because of the very pronounced slope on many of today’s cars. I prefer to start with the most difficult glass first. Plus, I know my towels are fresh and clean and this gives me the best chance at producing a streak free finish. This really is the most important piece of glass to clean because the customer is constantly looking out of the front windshield. If you mess this glass up, the customer most certainly WILL notice and will most likely start to look for other problems. Next, I do the rear windshield because it’s the other most looked through window and also a very difficult piece of glass to clean. Many times you will have to contort your body to reach the tight areas, while also being careful not to hit the glass with your sweaty forearms. We all know the feeling of trying to clean a hot and difficult interior on a sweltering summer day. One wrong move with your sweaty arms will mean doing that part of the glass all over again. But take your time and get it right! Don’t rush! Being in a huge hurry is a leading cause of streaks. You must be able to expertly navigate around the third brake light housing and reach the towel as deep into the rear shelf as possible to get that film at the very bottom of the rear windshield. Once the very challenging front and rear windshields are cleaned, I can now stand back up, get out of the car and clean the side glass. DO NOT forget to lower the side glass down and inch or two to expose the upper lips of the side glass. This generally is a very dirty area. After cleaning the upper lips of all the glass, I will most likely have to throw my cleaning towel in the wash basket. It’s now pretty wet and dirty and I do not want to risk re-depositing that dirt back onto the glass. So I simply discard that cleaning towel and introduce a new one to clean all the side glass. My buffing towel should not get too wet or dirty, so that towel can stay in play. Double check After all the glass is completed, look for streaks. It better that you find them than the customer. Examine the glass from different angles both inside and out and look for streaks. A perfect window will look like there is no window there at all. As you can see, window cleaning is a little more involved than it looks. Many customers will base their decision to continue to use your services based on the cleanliness of their windows. Don’t let this often overlooked problem drive customers away. |
08-18-2010, 07:30 PM | #14 |
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That was a good read Phil. Lots of good advice. Thanks.
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