modding ss vs 5.0

[dshep214]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

I'm guessing there's very little difference between the two cars, similarly modded or bone stock. I love having my Camaro, but wouldn't mind the 5.0 either.

O both cars are very sweet that's for sure. And after his cam upgrade we will be back at the same hp numbers again. Or very very close

[NoWRX]

Originally Posted by dshep214

I have no idea? Not only that who sets a tune where u let off the gas to shift? That would serve no purpose to have an auto lol

I think I know what he's talking about. With certain tunes on the auto 5.0s, if you bury it from a stop, and I mean absolutely bury it with no tip in at all, the transmission will not engage the gear and the car won't do anything but rev to the moon. It's a bit like revving the shit out of a manual with the clutch pushed in. I'm not sure if it's the torque management going crazy or what, but it's noticeable.

But, I've only experienced it from a stop, with a complete flooring, in first gear. If you utilize a slight roll in to the throttle, you should be fine, instead of just hamfistedly punching the gas to the floor.

[Deki]

He is getting ripped off on that cam install. It's so easily accessible it's a joke. I didn't think the new 5.0s gained much from cams.

[dshep214]

He said only 35-40 hp gain

[CamanLS3]

Sounds like they made his shift points higher than the engine rev limiter.

[sasquash1984]

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

The bottom line is, when you go away from stock and start modding to beat someone, whoever has a higher credit card limit will win.

[Coyotekiller]

Originally Posted by Deki

He is getting ripped off on that cam install. It's so easily accessible it's a joke. I didn't think the new 5.0s gained much from cams.

On another forum I am on, a guy with an '11 5.0 swapped heads and cams and only picked up ~50 horses. I would be pissed. That's $3G worth of parts for only 50 horses. He was irate as well.

[Deki]

Originally Posted by Coyotekiller

On another forum I am on, a guy with an '11 5.0 swapped heads and cams and only picked up ~50 horses. I would be pissed. That's $3G worth of parts for only 50 horses. He was irate as well.

I didn't think heads were worth doing on the 5.0s because they flow better than the Ford GT heads. Cams are not worth it to me. If I was gonna spend 2k and open the engine up, I'd be getting some forged goodies, then I'd go with the Hellion kit and make 850hp all day with no worries. Alas, I'm limited in funds, so near stock is the way for me lol

[derklug]

Camaro mods will be much cheaper than 5.0 mods for a while. The Camaro's drivetrain has been around longer and so there are more products on the market. 3 or 4 years from now, 5.0 parts will start coming down as more are on the road and coming off warranty.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by Coyotekiller

On another forum I am on, a guy with an '11 5.0 swapped heads and cams and only picked up ~50 horses. I would be pissed. That's $3G worth of parts for only 50 horses. He was irate as well.

so it's still a typical ford modular.

[Coyotekiller]

Originally Posted by derklug

Camaro mods will be much cheaper than 5.0 mods for a while. The Camaro's drivetrain has been around longer and so there are more products on the market. 3 or 4 years from now, 5.0 parts will start coming down as more are on the road and coming off warranty.

Last I checked, (seeing as how I owned one and all). The 5.0 is actually slightly cheaper to modify. The suspensions from Fred flintstones ride, and the drivetrain (other than the trans) is pretty much the same as last generations driveline. I'll just point out one big difference between the two cars: the rearends. The rear gear set for a mustang is about $200-250 INSTALLED. The Camaro gear set is gonna run you at least $500 for just the gears. That's not including an install kit or anything. You do the math there. And thats not the only difference. Cold air kits for the mustang average $100 less depending on brand as well. I think maybe you need to go check your facts bro.

Originally Posted by big hammer

so it's still a typical ford modular.

No it's a whole new monster. The motor is a very sweet motor. The aftermarket just hasn't caught up yet.

[dshep214]

Originally Posted by Coyotekiller

Last I checked, (seeing as how I owned one and all). The 5.0 is actually slightly cheaper to modify. The suspensions from Fred flintstones ride, and the drivetrain (other than the trans) is pretty much the same as last generations driveline. I'll just point out one big difference between the two cars: the rearends. The rear gear set for a mustang is about $200-250 INSTALLED. The Camaro gear set is gonna run you at least $500 for just the gears. That's not including an install kit or anything. You do the math there. And thats not the only difference. Cold air kits for the mustang average $100 less depending on brand as well. I think maybe you need to go check your facts bro.


No it's a whole new monster. The motor is a very sweet motor. The aftermarket just hasn't caught up yet.

I would gladly take the 300 dollar difference on rear ends when it cost us 350 for a cam with springs and cost y'all 1500 without springs. Do the math there. Also last I checked the cai were very close in price I bought my cold air inductions for 300 he bought a jlt for 300. And he bought the 302 boss intake which is a must buy for the mustang with our stock being as good or better than aftermarket ones. It's cool you have a mustang but this thread was stating facts of me and my neighbors cars and I know what we both have spent modding them so keep your judgmental fan boyism somewhere else.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by Coyotekiller

Last I checked, (seeing as how I owned one and all). The 5.0 is actually slightly cheaper to modify. The suspensions from Fred flintstones ride, and the drivetrain (other than the trans) is pretty much the same as last generations driveline. I'll just point out one big difference between the two cars: the rearends. The rear gear set for a mustang is about $200-250 INSTALLED. The Camaro gear set is gonna run you at least $500 for just the gears. That's not including an install kit or anything. You do the math there. And thats not the only difference. Cold air kits for the mustang average $100 less depending on brand as well. I think maybe you need to go check your facts bro.


No it's a whole new monster. The motor is a very sweet motor. The aftermarket just hasn't caught up yet.

you can get cold air intakes for $130 off ebay for the camaro. so you can get cai's for a mustang for $30?

[Coyotekiller]

Originally Posted by dshep214

I would gladly take the 300 dollar difference on rear ends when it cost us 350 for a cam with springs and cost y'all 1500 without springs. Do the math there. Also last I checked the cai were very close in price I bought my cold air inductions for 300 he bought a jlt for 300. And he bought the 302 boss intake which is a must buy for the mustang with our stock being as good or better than aftermarket ones. It's cool you have a mustang but this thread was stating facts of me and my neighbors cars and I know what we both have spent modding them so keep your judgmental fan boyism somewhere else.

The boss intake is actually more or a hinderance than a help on the 5.0. Unless you plan to turn it up to 7800 rpm every shift. It's a great part but the stock intake works better for mid range and low range torque. I had a boss on mine and it was a great piece but really killed my torque numbers.

Btw I don't have my mustang anymore because it was a piece of shit and ford doesn't back their products. So you can stow the fanboy line right now. I got my camaro and am completely happy with it. But it's damn expensive to mod when you compare it to the mustang. If you don't wanna admit that I'm ****ing sorry that you can't see the truth.


And big hammer, Quit trolling. Nobody actually buys those crappy intakes.