HP Tuners putting SCT to shame

[GearLube]

Originally Posted by thahemp

His website is out of date then. I'm quite sure I wasn't one of the first 5 HPT buyers. I don't remember headers prices being competitive over there, but maybe they are now. Again... it's all in who you choose to spend your money with.

Couldn't agree more. We need many vendors that offer good service and prices so we as consumers can make choices. Would be pretty damm boring if there was only one vendor. Competition with the vendors is a good thing in technology as it drives new ideas and innovation.

[thahemp]

Originally Posted by GearLube

For the %15 that care to see it, or would take the time to understand it, then totally agreed! Its Greek to me!

Everything is Greek until you start studying it! Gotta start somewhere. Minor changes for bigger wheels, gears, etc... are another plus. Most tuners will probably update you for free, but it's nice to be on your own schedule sometimes.

[stoopid]

Originally Posted by GearLube

Couldn't agree more. We need many vendors that offer good service and prices so we as consumers can make choices. Would be pretty damm boring if there was only one vendor. Competition with the vendors is a good thing in technology as it drives new ideas and innovation.

And equally important - keeps pricing for the consumer competitive.

[Detoxx03]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

SCT is a joke. If your shop isn't tuning with HP or EFI Live, you need to find a new shop.

[GearLube]

Originally Posted by Detoxx03

Could you explain why? I honestly am interested in knowing if and what I am missing in my tune the HP has that the SCT doesn't? Thanks

[GearLube]

[HP Turbine]

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[CyberPredator]

Originally Posted by GearLube

Expanding on what I said above with the speculated %85 of us Camaro owners that want to take advantage of a good tune, but will never tweak a tune ourselves using software lets look at the costs.

HP Tuner:
$500.00 for the device
$150 for a Tune
Total $650

SCT Device:
$399.00 which includes the device and tune
Total $399

So I am saving $251 that I could put towards another mod to get a tune file to connect to my interface to upload a remote tune. I think if your a person that has those skills, then obviously the HP maybe better. But for the guys who don't mess with the files....SCT is the way to go. Just my opinion is all.

150 for a tune? HP tuners comes with 8 credits. Regardless this is a silly thread. Each tuner will and should use what they prefer.

[Z1 Dunn]

Originally Posted by mikeyg36

Then explain why some of the most respected shops and tuners exclusively use HP or EFI. Last time I checked FSP, Slowhawk, GPI, and RPM don't use SCT, and I've never heard a bad thing about these shops. I've never heard of them blowing up motors either, which can't be said for some shops on here.

MikeyG maybe you should look around I have seen bad things said about a few shops on your list.

[Z1 Dunn]

Originally Posted by CyberPredator

150 for a tune? HP tuners comes with 8 credits. Regardless this is a silly thread. Each tuner will and should use what they prefer.

I agree but it looks like tampa tuning is jealous of something I guess that's why he started a ford thread on a chevy board

[bill@hptuners]

And we've added tables requested by Howard at redline, Doug at ECS, Jason at lingenfelter. If there are tables requested we add them. What specifically is it we are missing? I know ALOT of things SCT is missing, and I know we are missing a handheld. Table wise though I'd love to know what we are missing that is a dealbreaker?

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by bill@hptuners

And we've added tables requested by Howard at redline, Doug at ECS, Jason at lingenfelter. If there are tables requested we add them. What specifically is it we are missing? I know ALOT of things SCT is missing, and I know we are missing a handheld. Table wise though I'd love to know what we are missing that is a dealbreaker?

Yes you do, for us too, Thank you for the V6 Release.

A handheld would be nice

Ted.

[mlee]

There's obviously a time and place for both of these tools. If HP tuners offered a quick handheld to store and load tunes with out buying extra credits and such it would put SCT out of business.

Also, no reason for the back and forth this shop is better than that shop. This is about SCT and HP tuners.

[thahemp]

Originally Posted by CyberPredator

150 for a tune? HP tuners comes with 8 credits. Regardless this is a silly thread. Each tuner will and should use what they prefer.

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

There are many situations where there is no table access in one software but available in another.

Does SCT have an actual VVE table? Or do you have to do the coefficients individually? I'm wishing I had a seat of EFI Live JUST for VE work. I have to open my tune, export to EQ<>VE, open an E40 sample tune, paste the VE table into the E40 VE low altd, adjust it, copy it back to EQ<>VE, close the E40 tune and open my tune back up, and paste the new equations back into my tune. How much more of a pain in the ass could it be?! The custom OS solves my problem, but I never seem to have time to mess with it any more.