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Risen · 02-21-2013, 10:20 PM

Good video comparison. Amazing how close the sti stays until the longer straights where the ZL1 pulls away... like it should.

The STI is $15,000 cheaper than a ZL1 and obviously outgunned. And the motor in the STI won't blow up any time soon. Subaru's are extremely well engineered cars and their boxers are bullett proof. They have a very strong racing pedigree and it shows.

Yes, most people would take a ZL1 over an STI, it's $15,000 more car. But the guys driving STIs are in the Camaro SS price range. The STI is a much better all around performer than an SS without the 1LE package.

Been a Camaro guy my whole life but I can't help but respect the Subarus. They are mean little buggars.

68RS · 02-21-2013, 10:57 PM

What is the best time for the ZL1 on the ring?

ZL1-V · 02-21-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 68RS

What is the best time for the ZL1 on the ring?

2012 ZL1 Nurburgring 7:41;27

BloodRain · 02-21-2013, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaCamaroKid

I wouldn't say these two are directly comparable... not stock anyway's, the STI is a great car. I am not sure where the guy above me got 51k but in America a WRX STI cost like 34k before any options. Great price, great car.

First five words in his post 'I went to Subaru Canada' Everything is so overpriced up here. Such a freaking scam. You would think that the camaros being built in canada give us a break. But no the add 10k dealership tax.

hognutz · 02-21-2013, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LimaCharlie

The STi in the video is not stock. It was a Subaru prototype:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2002584

well that sums it up. upgraded turbo, braking, etc. I though 7:55 seemed faster than it should be even with the high caliber driver.

grocerygetter · 02-21-2013, 11:14 PM

You guys are not very educated on subarus. An sti is an animal. Rally car bred and freaking stout when it comes to durability. $34k gets u one. Stock vs an ss...out handles circles around an ss. Straight line...nod to the ss though. You throw 1200 at the Subie though...things get interesting.
I had a 2006 sti, I know.

Steve Dallas · 02-21-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Char1ieone

I love watching these Nurburgring videos! Has Ford released any on their Boss 302 or the Laguna Seca?

I've looked, but...there is nothing to be found. I think they are hiding. Other courses they get brake fade after a lap or two. This is a long track. It wouldn't surprise me if they started getting brake fade halfway into the course.

Steve Dallas · 02-21-2013, 11:19 PM

Random thought...

Steve Dallas · 02-21-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by grocerygetter

You guys are not very educated on subarus. An sti is an animal. Rally car bred and freaking stout when it comes to durability. $34k gets u one. Stock vs an ss...out handles circles around an ss. Straight line...nod to the ss though. You throw 1200 at the Subie though...things get interesting.
I had a 2006 sti, I know.

One of my best friends has an STI. Damn thing is quick. If I was to get any other car besides the ZL1, might be that or an Audi S6.

On one hand, I love the Camaro. On the other, up here in the Pacific Northwest, it'd be nice to have AWD for some parts of the year.

grocerygetter · 02-22-2013, 06:36 AM

At the time that video was done the sti was knocking on the gtr's lap time and right at the ctsv. Granted that is the 205 sti via Japan driven by tommy mackinen I think.

Easton091 · 02-22-2013, 07:29 AM

Not a big surprise the ZL1 would win, it does have almost double the HP

Good2go · 02-22-2013, 07:42 AM

The newer STi's are known for blowing up the 2.5 motors. I think the older one's not so much.

jcamere94z28 · 02-22-2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerZL1

That Subaru runs better than I expected. Great video!

I was impressed by the Subaru as well! with that much HP difference the Subaru didn't do bad at all...

ZL1-V · 02-22-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas

One of my best friends has an STI. Damn thing is quick. If I was to get any other car besides the ZL1, might be that or an Audi S6.

On one hand, I love the Camaro. On the other, up here in the Pacific Northwest, it'd be nice to have AWD for some parts of the year.

I also looked at the STI and A6. I still like both cars even though I own a ZL1.

02-21-2013, 10:57 PM	#30
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02-21-2013, 11:14 PM	#34
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	You guys are not very educated on subarus. An sti is an animal. Rally car bred and freaking stout when it comes to durability. $34k gets u one. Stock vs an ss...out handles circles around an ss. Straight line...nod to the ss though. You throw 1200 at the Subie though...things get interesting. I had a 2006 sti, I know. __________________ -John S.

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02-22-2013, 06:36 AM	#38
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	At the time that video was done the sti was knocking on the gtr's lap time and right at the ctsv. Granted that is the 205 sti via Japan driven by tommy mackinen I think. __________________ -John S.

02-22-2013, 07:29 AM	#39
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02-21-2013, 10:20 PM	#29
Risen Drives: Yellow 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 29 View My Garage	Good video comparison. Amazing how close the sti stays until the longer straights where the ZL1 pulls away... like it should. The STI is $15,000 cheaper than a ZL1 and obviously outgunned. And the motor in the STI won't blow up any time soon. Subaru's are extremely well engineered cars and their boxers are bullett proof. They have a very strong racing pedigree and it shows. Yes, most people would take a ZL1 over an STI, it's $15,000 more car. But the guys driving STIs are in the Camaro SS price range. The STI is a much better all around performer than an SS without the 1LE package. Been a Camaro guy my whole life but I can't help but respect the Subarus. They are mean little buggars.

02-22-2013, 07:42 AM	#40
Good2go Team Chevrolet Drives: 2007 Z06 and 2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio Posts: 441 View My Garage	The newer STi's are known for blowing up the 2.5 motors. I think the older one's not so much. __________________ Forgeline GA3's 9.5/11 with NT-05 Nitto's, Pedders Sportsryder Supercar Coilovers, MGW Shifter, LPE GT1-1 Cam, AR 1 7/8" LT's, Halltech CAI, SW Retro Chambered Cat-Back, Installed and tuned by Corey @ Henderson Performance Technology.