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Nightmare2012 · 07-03-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarojt

I have heard of 1 independent test besides the Phadt test. This particular shop made 7rwhp over an ARH 1 7/8 header. Which is a pretty considerable gain for a header vs header comparison.

I am waiting to see if anybody else gets similar results.

I think 7hp is possible. Phadt is a very reputable company and puts out very high quality parts. And for the price, I think it's worth 7 extra hp. But more tests will dictate my pulling the trigger on them.

7hp more for the same price as an arh thats awesome! Skeptical is the name of our game but since we are in America you have to believe them till proven other wise

Camarojt · 07-03-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

7hp more for the same price as an arh thats awesome! Skeptical is the name of our game but since we are in America you have to believe them till proven other wise

I can say that they look top notch on quality. I don't think that is even debatable. Whether or not they simply outperform the top brands is all I'm interested in. I personally hope that they are correct and that they do put out more hp and tq over a kooks or ARH or SW header. Then the whole header debate will now get turned up on its end. And the new big dog on the block will be PHADT headers! There will be no more comments that all headers are about the same, pick whatever fits ur budget! Instead it will be pick which ever gets you to your goal and also fits your budget. If you goal is just a good increase in the butt dyno and you will never track your car, then a cheaper brand might be the answer. On the flip side, if your goal is to get the most power out if your car, then hopefully, these will be the header of choice!

We just need some good data from several cars. Not just a vendor that sells them.

Nightmare2012 · 07-03-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarojt

I can say that they look top notch on quality. I don't think that is even debatable. Whether or not they simply outperform the top brands is all I'm interested in. I personally hope that they are correct and that they do put out more hp and tq over a kooks or ARH or SW header. Then the whole header debate will now get turned up on its end. And the new big dog on the block will be PHADT headers! There will be no more comments that all headers are about the same, pick whatever fits ur budget! Instead it will be pick which ever gets you to your goal and also fits your budget. If you goal is just a good increase in the butt dyno and you will never track your car, then a cheaper brand might be the answer. On the flip side, if your goal is to get the most power out if your car, then hopefully, these will be the header of choice!

We just need some good data from several cars. Not just a vendor that sells them.

Oh no doubt about that this will put that necessary seal. We just need a few guys on here to hurry up and buy them and if they already preordered they need to get shipped asap plz we need data!

axis · 07-03-2013, 01:46 PM

If Pfadt would send me a set, i'd gladly make an appointment with Rhino to see how they compare to my Kooks.

Nightmare2012 · 07-03-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by axis

If Pfadt would send me a set, i'd gladly make an appointment with Rhino to see how they compare to my Kooks.

If i had a block ill do the same.lol ill be ordering these regardless for the price alone to go along with my new lsx427 build but ofcourse the numbers would be skewed.

BlaqWhole · 07-03-2013, 04:10 PM

I don't know guys. They're saying no tune is needed for the headers...AND they're making more power than headers that require a tune??!! And for $1500 (catted system) I don't think too many people are gonna have them anytime soon. Now don't get me wrong and don't get mad at me for saying these things. I'm not trying to start a war. I'm just trying to have a logical conversation. I know this company makes great products and are very reputable. But end of the day these are bold claims. So I've seen the design. And they are great looking headers. Just the look, quality, and finish alone might be worth the money for a lot of people. The extra power (if any) would be bonus I can see that. But what in the design is making more power than the standard design? What about 2 inch headers? 2" makes about 5 more hp than 1-7/8th. Would that be a better bargain considering the price for TSPs 2"?? What do you guys think? I'd like to hear more opinions and hopefully some facts, lol!! Who was the independent tester and which shop? How reputable are they?

axis · 07-03-2013, 04:17 PM

No independent testing has been done, YET. The way I understand them, they're not so much getting a lot more HP/Tq out of this design but it's where in the curve the tq is increased. They're suppose to be better under the curve which is where these heavy ass cars need it. Kinda like the long runner intakes are suppose to help with lowend tq. All of this remains to be seen, but this is the theory or at least how I understand it.

There will always be people that won't see spending $500+ more than TSP headers for a 5-10whp increase.

wally mayfield · 07-03-2013, 04:19 PM

What about 2 inch headers? 2" makes about 5 more hp than 1-7/8th. Would that be a better bargain considering the price for TSPs 2"?? What do you guys think? I'd like to hear more opinions and hopefully some facts, lol!! Who was the independent tester and which shop? How reputable are they?

axis · 07-03-2013, 04:24 PM

We can speculate all day long but nothing will be known until they get in the hands of the end users.

BlaqWhole · 07-03-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by wally mayfield

What about 2 inch headers? 2" makes about 5 more hp than 1-7/8th. Would that be a better bargain considering the price for TSPs 2"?? What do you guys think? I'd like to hear more opinions and hopefully some facts, lol!! Who was the independent tester and which shop? How reputable are they?

DUDE! ! You didn't quote me correctly, haha!!

DarkneSS · 07-03-2013, 07:41 PM

I went with a vararam no tune $200, ordering dual cut electric cut outs, $350 + $80 install, and I think I might buy just high flow cats and throw them on the stock exhaust, then custom fit lighter 2.75 inch pipes from the cats to the stock mufflers.

MarylandSpeed · 07-03-2013, 09:00 PM

I would do a nice set of headers and maybe a CAI. We could make this set up happen for a nice price. The ported TB and manifold is not really worthwhile. If you have questions, call us at the number in the sig.

Thanks!

ABM Camaro · 07-03-2013, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MarylandSpeed

I would do a nice set of headers and maybe a CAI. We could make this set up happen for a nice price. The ported TB and manifold is not really worthwhile. If you have questions, call us at the number in the sig.

Thanks!

how much?

wally mayfield · 07-03-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

DUDE! ! You didn't quote me correctly, haha!!

it was your quote...

07-03-2013, 01:46 PM	#60
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	If Pfadt would send me a set, i'd gladly make an appointment with Rhino to see how they compare to my Kooks. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

07-03-2013, 04:17 PM	#63
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	No independent testing has been done, YET. The way I understand them, they're not so much getting a lot more HP/Tq out of this design but it's where in the curve the tq is increased. They're suppose to be better under the curve which is where these heavy ass cars need it. Kinda like the long runner intakes are suppose to help with lowend tq. All of this remains to be seen, but this is the theory or at least how I understand it. There will always be people that won't see spending $500+ more than TSP headers for a 5-10whp increase. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

07-03-2013, 04:19 PM	#64
wally mayfield Drives: 2013 2SS 6M Join Date: May 2013 Location: eastern high sierra Posts: 893	What about 2 inch headers? 2" makes about 5 more hp than 1-7/8th. Would that be a better bargain considering the price for TSPs 2"?? What do you guys think? I'd like to hear more opinions and hopefully some facts, lol!! Who was the independent tester and which shop? How reputable are they? __________________ Strut tower brace(GM), CAI, Blade Spoiler, ZL1 wheels and tires, Heritage grill, Dual mode exhaust, and thats it, no more..except for the lowering springs..Ok Hotchkis springs were delivered today, thats it..

07-03-2013, 04:24 PM	#65
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	We can speculate all day long but nothing will be known until they get in the hands of the end users. __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

07-03-2013, 04:10 PM	#62
BlaqWhole Account Suspended Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 7,692	I don't know guys. They're saying no tune is needed for the headers...AND they're making more power than headers that require a tune??!! And for $1500 (catted system) I don't think too many people are gonna have them anytime soon. Now don't get me wrong and don't get mad at me for saying these things. I'm not trying to start a war. I'm just trying to have a logical conversation. I know this company makes great products and are very reputable. But end of the day these are bold claims. So I've seen the design. And they are great looking headers. Just the look, quality, and finish alone might be worth the money for a lot of people. The extra power (if any) would be bonus I can see that. But what in the design is making more power than the standard design? What about 2 inch headers? 2" makes about 5 more hp than 1-7/8th. Would that be a better bargain considering the price for TSPs 2"?? What do you guys think? I'd like to hear more opinions and hopefully some facts, lol!! Who was the independent tester and which shop? How reputable are they?

07-03-2013, 07:41 PM	#67
DarkneSS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, New York Posts: 3,715	I went with a vararam no tune $200, ordering dual cut electric cut outs, $350 + $80 install, and I think I might buy just high flow cats and throw them on the stock exhaust, then custom fit lighter 2.75 inch pipes from the cats to the stock mufflers.

07-03-2013, 09:00 PM	#68
MarylandSpeed Account Suspended Drives: 2012 ZL1 & 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,378	I would do a nice set of headers and maybe a CAI. We could make this set up happen for a nice price. The ported TB and manifold is not really worthwhile. If you have questions, call us at the number in the sig. Thanks!