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Old 04-08-2012, 12:38 PM   #155
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You want it all don't you
Another thing about aging is you know what you like (for men anyway). That being said I don't necessarily want it all, I want only what I know pleases me.
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:48 PM   #156
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I want it to hit 88 miles per hour and I travel through time. . .I guess I need to get a delorean
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We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name.
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Old 04-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #157
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The fun part is there really isn't a correct answer. What was at one point does not define what must be in the future.
You mean "the only 'constant' is 'change'?"

Hmmm...
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:00 PM   #158
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You mean "the only 'constant' is 'change'?"

Hmmm...
And oxidation...............lol
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:16 PM   #159
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And oxidation...............lol
So I haven/t really aged, I've just oxidized!!
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Old 04-10-2012, 01:58 PM   #160
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BTW ... I've never strayed from GM in my over 40 years of driving.

That just makes me sad.
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:00 PM   #161
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That just makes me sad.
It impresses me!


But then....this thread isn't about that, is it?
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:00 PM   #162
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:18 PM   #163
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:08 PM   #164
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I must apologize to those who may have been offended by what seemed to be a negative view on a potential Z28. That wasn't my intent no matter how some may have seen it. But any of my opinions are just as valid as anyone else's.

I've had several Z28s in the past and currently, and would like to see another. But I'm also a realist. The window for a 5th gen Z28 is shrinking fast. All information I've been able to gather points to a 6th gen. All this could change with a press release, though. Surprise us, GM.

We're all Camaro lovers here (except maybe the Mustang guests). We may not agree on every point, but we all know that the Z28 has a very special and revered place in Camaro history (not taking any respect away from the SS), and will happen again only when it's right and ready. Whenever that may be.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:14 AM   #165
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GM has already designated the ZL1 as the then and now Ultimate Camaro.

Also from a marketing standpoint the price gap is between the 1LE $40K and the ZL1 $55K. That is the gap to fill.
Not as much of a gap as your numbers indicate. Put the 1LE on a 2SS and the price will likely be in the $45-50k range. Especially when you consider the ZL1 is basically a 2SS with performance upgrades.
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Old 04-22-2012, 10:25 AM   #166
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Not as much of a gap as your numbers indicate. Put the 1LE on a 2SS and the price will likely be in the $45-50k range. Especially when you consider the ZL1 is basically a 2SS with performance upgrades.
we'll just have to wait and see. but the ZL1 isn't just performance upgrades. there's some interior/exterior upgrades as well. those do cost money also.

I'd be willing to bet. the 1LE option makes the 2SS 42-43k before any options and TTL. going off the 1SS price and it possibly being 39999. So we will see. after options I know you could get one up there. and it'd be interesting. so can't wait.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:38 PM   #167
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Let's correct some mis-information first, then I'll explain. First gen. Z/28 production: '67-602, '68-7,199, '69-20,302. When the Camaro was first released in the fall of '66 for the '67 model year, there was no Z/28. Some of the executives within the Chevrolet/Camaro section felt that there needed to be a unique Camaro to compete in the SCCA TransAm Sedan Race Series. Some engineers were tasked with doing this and the vehicle that resulted was the Camaro Z/28, it was almost a production racecar available from the factory, it was not available with AC or auto tranny, nor was it available in a convertible. It featured a high compression (11:1) 302cid SBC with solid lifters that was able to rev 7k+ quite easily right off the showroom floor and featured the same Holley 780cfm carb found on some Chevy big block engines. The standard rear gear ratio was 3.73 with optional ratios up to 4.56(and possibly the 4.88s were available also). It could be equipped with a chin spoiler and a trunklid spoiler and was available with the wide "stereo" stipes on hood and trunk that were initially available on Z/28 only. The Z/28 was a mid-year introduction in the '67 model year (I think the first ones were built in Dec. '66). While the first gen SS Camaros were excellent cars, their high performance was more focused on 1/4 mile and straight line accelereation, the Z/28 was purpose built to be focused on excellent handling in curves as well as straightaways. If someone wanted an acceleration focused Camaro they bought a SS, if they wanted excellent all around handling for straightening out curves they chose the Z/28. While the SS models (available with several engine configurations) had great acceleration, throw some curves into the equation and all an SS would see is Z/28 tail lights. And that is a brief history of the heritage of the Z/28 and how it came to be.
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I think they did make 1 or 2 as a convertible
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Old 05-08-2012, 06:50 PM   #168
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I think they did make 1 or 2 as a convertible
As has been explained many times, first gen. Z/28s were not available as a regular production order vert. There was one COPO vert Z/28 made for Chev exec. Pete Estes, the one and only first gen vert Z/28 ever made by Chevrolet. So the statement stands, first gen. Z/28s were NOT available as a convertible, you could not walk in off the street to a Chevy dealer and order one.
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