Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Roto-Fab
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > General Camaro Forums > Camaro ZL1 Forum - ZL1 Specific Topics


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-11-2012, 10:23 AM   #29
Coolidge
 
Drives: Dodge 4x4 Hemi
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 134
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Behan View Post
That would be called detonation, on that run. Nothing to do with a break in period, just us exploring the performance of the vehicles at different temperatures and heat soak periods to see the effects of intercooler system efficiencies when heat soaked etc. we are just establishing where the limitations may be before we explore extreme power levels. its all about understanding what the production set up is capable of before pushing it to where we wish to be with these cars. First notes are the intercooler efficiency differences between this set up and the CTSV, inlet depression, obviously exhaust system backpressure, etc.

Graham.
An example of why I leave this stuff to the experts, makes sense.
Coolidge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:23 PM   #30
EvoWake
SSTOCK
 
EvoWake's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Midwest
Posts: 423
Any results from anyone on a dynojet yet?
__________________
2010 Camaro 2SS/RS





EvoWake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:24 PM   #31
SummoneR
Paul
 
SummoneR's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 2SS/RS M6 "Marauder"
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NOR*CAL
Posts: 6,257
Send a message via Yahoo to SummoneR
Cool video MEAN!

The paint match on the Red car is horrible! From the plastic compared to the metal... dang.
__________________
SummoneR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:34 PM   #32
LAWMAN

 
LAWMAN's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 cam.2ss/rs.iom,07'escalade esv
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Pasc.Ms.
Posts: 841
very nice,strong right out of the box,i was expecting #'s to be in the high 490'ish,but over 500 i think is pretty darn impressive,man,the more i see the more i want!i just got off Chevy's site building my own,$56,845..which is about 10-15g's too deep for my pocket,hope everyone that gets one enjoy's the hell out of it,i would!
__________________
A9120159
1100:12/19/08
3800:06/19/09
6000:07/02/09
LAWMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:37 PM   #33
LAWMAN

 
LAWMAN's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 cam.2ss/rs.iom,07'escalade esv
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Pasc.Ms.
Posts: 841
oh,and rwhp is about 63 more than i have with my "ss" with mild g.m. cam,tune,cai,kooks l/tubes with 3"exaust w/hi flo cats,
__________________
A9120159
1100:12/19/08
3800:06/19/09
6000:07/02/09
LAWMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:47 PM   #34
Steve Dallas
Commits weekly crime
 
Steve Dallas's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Camano Island, WA
Posts: 9,513
Double ZL1...it's so VIVID! WOOOOWWWWWW!!!
__________________
2017 Camaro 1LT - Blue Barchetta IV
I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar. Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime.
Steve Dallas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:54 PM   #35
eggydoo
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro SS
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 629
I just noticed the ZL1 has readable "skinnier" tach needles....
Is this the same for newer years? I have the 2010 fat needle that is useless.
eggydoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:57 PM   #36
camaro_RS
Emerald Coast Camaros
 
camaro_RS's Avatar
 
Drives: A lot of show, not much go.
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Emerald Coast
Posts: 3,388
__________________
-White Mary Jane....build thread [COTW 6/11/12] :

camaro_RS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 03:59 PM   #37
GearheadSS


 
GearheadSS's Avatar
 
Drives: 23 LT1/22 Colorado TB/69 Chevelle
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Greenville, Tx
Posts: 4,966
Were both of those manuals?
GearheadSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 04:06 PM   #38
slick rick
SoCal Mayhem
 
slick rick's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Foothill Ranch, CA
Posts: 5,488
Quote:
Originally Posted by eggydoo View Post
I just noticed the ZL1 has readable "skinnier" tach needles....
Is this the same for newer years? I have the 2010 fat needle that is useless.
Started with the 2012 Camaro's
__________________
slick rick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 04:19 PM   #39
tooslow
Banned
 
Drives: 4 Wheels, Gasoline Engine
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 1,007
Good numbers and right in line with what I would have expected on a Mustang dyno. My neighbors 2012 GT500 w/PP made 500rwhp/480rwtq on a Mustang dyno. Given the extra CID of the 6.2 versus the 5.4, the greater torque generated by the larger motor shows.

I think in a drag race, the 2011-2012 GT500 and the ZL1 are going to be a drivers race with the edge going to the ZL1 given equal drivers.
tooslow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 04:32 PM   #40
doc7000

 
Drives: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lomita,CA
Posts: 806
At 518RWHP if that engine is indeed making 580BHP at the crank then that would give us an 11% drive line loss.

The reason that the V6 Mustang and V6 Camaro can get the fuel economy numbers that they get is due to such low drive line losses. Consider that the V-6 Mustang is rated at 305BHP and gets a best 31MPG and the Camaro V-6 at 323BHP gets a best 30MPG. Consider that the Honda Accord V6 Coupe wwith 271BHP gets a best 29MPG highway, thats all 3 with automatic transmissions and consider that the Honda is 3,400 pounds compared to 3,450 pounds for the Mustang and 3,750 pounds for the Camaro. When you equip all 3 vehicles with manual transmissions the Honda does even worse as it has a rating of 26MPH highway. Compare that to 29MPG for the Mustang and 28MPG for the Camaro.

So what I am saying is the reduction in drive line loss has given the RWD platform new life as they are now capable of achieving fuel economy numbers that are competitive to their FWD counter parts. The fact that RWD vehicles use to have a driveline loss in the 20-25% range and now are in the 10-15% range is impressive. That some models in the past had a 25% drive line loss and now have a 10% drive line loss doesn't just mean better fuel economy. This also means better performance all around, consider that if it takes 300RWHP to get a 3,000 pound vehicle to 60MPH in 4.5 seconds. At a 25% drive line loss it takes 400BHP to achieve 300RWHP, this means a engine that not only consumes more fuel but a engine that is bigger and heavier all things equal. Also the transmission has to be beefier to handle 400BHP going into it, so the the drive line gains weight. So in order to keep the 3,000 pound vehicle weight you need to use lighter (more expensive) materials. At 10% drive line loss you only need 375BHP to do the same thing, though the difference of only 25BHP is a small difference. This difference becomes more pronounced as the power levels go up. When you are looking at 700BHP range at 25% loss you get 525RWHP and at 10% loss you get 630RWHP a difference of more then 100RWHP.
doc7000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 04:35 PM   #41
cking
 
cking's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro RS/2SS M6 "Lilith"
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: McA, Oklahoma
Posts: 12
Did anybody notice that it doesn't do the full gauge sweep? Specific to 2012 or ZL1's?
cking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2012, 04:47 PM   #42
Bo Tie 1
 
Bo Tie 1's Avatar
 
Drives: 11 Camaro SS,05 Vette Z51,76 Camaro
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Joliet, IL
Posts: 370
Bo Tie 1 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Tags
camaro z1l dyno, camaro zl1 dyno figures, camaro zl1 dyno numbers, camaro zl1 dyno results, camaro zl1 dyno video, zl1 dyno, zl1 dyno figures, zl1 dyno numbers, zl1 dyno video

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.