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Old 05-12-2008, 12:50 PM   #29
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Maybe these posts are exactly the reason GM is holding onto their cards for so long; in order to develope a better idea what the competition is going to look like in a couple years. As much as I think the competition improves the breed, I hope GM is preparing for the new Mustang. We'll soon see...
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:13 PM   #30
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According to this article on Leftlane News: http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-beg...ang-spied.html

The 5.0L is expected to make 400hp, 400 lb-ft. If true, GM has their target to beat. See, this is why we've had to wait for a later release date and limited information. GM has their bogey now, and we'll win as a result (assuming that article is accurate).
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:23 PM   #31
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what ford should do is lose the modular motor and switch to a push-rod like chevy uses. i currently own a newer GT and the torque is no where near the same as it was in my 02 Z28. I dont believe that a mustang will ever over come camaros in 0-60 and 1/4 mi. times. as far as N/A engines go
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:27 PM   #32
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You know all this HP talk is fine and dandy, but i have a limited budget... just how efficient can GM make these high powered monsters? Gas is almost at 4$ a gallon where i live... it is getting hard to fill my 15 gallon tank in my cavalier that gets about 28 mpg in the city... If my V6 camaro can get close to 25 i'll be ok, but i'm getting nervous with all this market the performance BS... market the performance AND the efficiency... IMO the efficiency comes before the Performance right now...
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:30 PM   #33
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Fbodfather said that they play this like a poker game and you certainly don't show all your cards until the correct moment. That helps me wait, because I want all the details now, but understand why they hold back.

No matter what the 2010 Mustang has, it is confirmed it will continue to use a solid rear axle. 12,000 hp and I'm not buying a Mustang.

And as far as accuracy, if you want all facts, wait until the vehicles are released to the public. We like to speculate here, based on loads of leaked info that usually turns out to be mostly accurate. Of course, any manufacturer could change anything at anytime. Not regarding this thread, but too many people (mostly newbies) in general complain if it isn't guaranteed. None of this is guaranteed friends.

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You know all this HP talk is fine and dandy, but i have a limited budget... just how efficient can GM make these high powered monsters? Gas is almost at 4$ a gallon where i live... it is getting hard to fill my 15 gallon tank in my cavalier that gets about 28 mpg in the city... If my V6 camaro can get close to 25 i'll be ok, but i'm getting nervous with all this market the performance BS... market the performance AND the efficiency... IMO the efficiency comes before the Performance right now...
V6 mileage has been estimated at 17 city, 25 hwy. Figure 21 combined.
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According to this article on Leftlane News: http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-beg...ang-spied.html
Great reference, I wasn't 100% sure about the 5.0L.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:39 PM   #36
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If the new 5.0 is supposed to kick out 100 more hp, and better mpg...GM had better get the AFM, etc right on Camaro. "Class leading" includes fuel economy. In all honesty, though...I'm not worried.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:47 PM   #37
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If the new 5.0 is supposed to kick out 100 more hp, and better mpg...GM had better get the AFM, etc right on Camaro. "Class leading" includes fuel economy. In all honesty, though...I'm not worried.
Ford is going to do 400HP with 1.2 fewer liters of engine though... so hopefully a little better tuned L76 or LS3 whatever engine they're going to use will get more torque with the 400hp... idk if Ford really can get 400hp out of a 5.0 we might have a dog fight on our hand here boys...
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I was around for the original pony wars. This is how it works. Car A is faster, next year Car B is faster. And it keeps going until someone gives up, or in the case during the 1970's, it ended when they all had to pull back.


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Old 05-12-2008, 02:53 PM   #39
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I was around for the original pony wars. This is how it works. Car A is faster, next year Car B is faster. And it keeps going until someone gives up, or in the case during the 1970's, it ended when they all had to pull back.


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true, but in the 70's Chevy was kicking ass and taking names on the street and on the track the whole time... and after 1977 or 78 they were kicking ass in the showroom too.
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if a gt500 is running 13.3 sec (Car and Driver Test Results) at 500hp and our corvette is running faster than that at nearly 100hp less, i dont think a 400hp mustang is anything to worry about..
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if a gt500 is running 13.3 sec (Car and Driver Test Results) at 500hp and our corvette is running faster than that at nearly 100hp less, i dont think a 400hp mustang is anything to worry about..
that isn't HP there... it is the power to weight ratio... the corvette is a lot lighter than the Mustang... especially the GT500. the current vette gets something like 430hp in base trim, so really i don't know why C&D did a corvette GT500 comparo... it is just redundant... like comparing apples to oranges...
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there was no comparison between the two cars .. just a test on the gt500. all im saying is i have owned a 02 Z28 and i currently own a 07 GT mustang, both of which have the same hp TQ ratings. if you have driven both vehicles you would know what im trying to say. the way the engines are built on the mustangs just dont put the power down the same way they do in chevy's. my Z28 had an exhaust and air lid and ran a faster time than a supercharged gt500. how do you explain that
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