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MillerTime · 03-08-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

This is my personal experience, too. With the exception of some abrasions in the gills area due to the wide, sticky front tires.

A lot of this, beyond the design of the car, also has to do with the area one drives in.

This...

buckeyemike · 03-08-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SKERIS

Hey guys...blame the currant top gun in office!

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buckeyemike · 03-08-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SSRS55

Man everyone bitching about paint quality.. I must of hit the jackpot on getting ashen grey, paint is flawless... over 5 k miles... with no harsh whether though...

Grey and white hide road abrasions the best.

CRTZL1 · 03-09-2013, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeyemike

Grey and white hide road abrasions the best.

Huh that's funny I will never buy white again cause of the white Camry I bought my wife before her current one now... in my opinion white by far is the worst color to show everything, it was an absolute nightmare. So I can't agree with your hole statement but the grey for sure!!

Captain Awesome · 03-09-2013, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Heaven_is_inferno_orange

My front fascia was repainted completely by a collision center owned by a Nissan and toyota dealership. It still chips. It's not GM guys. Car shape + water based paint + road debri = rock chips. If you drive it, it is gonna get chipped fact of life.

Car shape + water based paint + road debri = rock chips.
Car shape + OIL based paint + road debri = LESS rock chips.

You do know that the consumer has some say in these matters. We live in a representative thingy that shall not be mentioned. It's time for the unmentionable to start representing us, not some green lobby.

Captain Awesome · 03-09-2013, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fbodyauto

I hear this a lot on here, but when I bought the car the sales guy said something about 8 coats of paint or something? I'm guessing he probably was lying pretty hard to me...

More paint layers means MORE WEIGHT. More weight flies in the face of arbitrary mileage requirements set by beaurocrats who hate cars.

It also means MORE PRICE. That eco-pigment crap is EXPENSIVE.

MBS · 03-09-2013, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by midnighter

I mean there are many threads about this which is fine but all they do for me is remind me of my Camaro's paint...

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These rock chips appeared after I waxed my Camaro for the first time. This paint blows!

when they say do not follow truck closely they mean it .

jd10013 · 03-09-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Heaven_is_inferno_orange

My front fascia was repainted completely by a collision center owned by a Nissan and toyota dealership. It still chips. It's not GM guys. Car shape + water based paint + road debri = rock chips. If you drive it, it is gonna get chipped fact of life.

not to mention most of them are using the same paint. they don't make it themselves, they buy it from Dupont, PPG, or some other company.

The IOM Ninja · 03-09-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Heaven_is_inferno_orange

My front fascia was repainted completely by a collision center owned by a Nissan and toyota dealership. It still chips. It's not GM guys. Car shape + water based paint + road debri = rock chips. If you drive it, it is gonna get chipped fact of life.

Umm you realize that dealer owned body shops are mostly in the business of doing cheap jobs right? They, like most dealership related business's try to maximize profit by cheating the customer. A professional body shop would cost more but you would have gotten a better job for that extra $500 or so you would have spent. In short, that Nissan shop could and put much more paint on than they did but whatever you paid I bet they made huge profit as compared to the actual cost of doing the work...

jd10013 · 03-09-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The IOM Ninja

Umm you realize that dealer owned body shops are mostly in the business of doing cheap jobs right? T

had bodywork done on my wife's 2007 altima at a GM dealers bodyshop and their work was far superior to private shops I had dealt with in the past. and they had to match a metallic blue paint. was perfect.

911medic · 03-09-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SKERIS

Hey guys...blame the currant top gun in office!

Yes, it is a well-known fact that one of the first things Obama did when he took office was mandate crappy auto paint.

The IOM Ninja · 03-09-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jd10013

had bodywork done on my wife's 2007 altima at a GM dealers bodyshop and their work was far superior to private shops I had dealt with in the past. and they had to match a metallic blue paint. was perfect.

Hence the Keyword, known as a word or concept of great significance, "MOSTLY"

It's not all of them but its most of them... There are bad private shops to OBVIOUSLY...

8863 · 03-09-2013, 11:18 AM

This type of automotive paint is not something new. GM and other car companies used waterborne paint as far back as the early 70's. GM had a plant in South Gate California that built Vega's and Monza's, I know, not necessarily good cars, which were sprayed with waterborne paint. Guess what, the solvent based painted cars rusted out the same as the waterborne painted cars did. I have seen West Coast Customs and Overhaulin explain the use of waterborne automotive paint which I think they use exclusively now. I have a couple of high end body shops in my area who have switched over to waterborne paint. They were not forced to do this by any governing body, they chose to do it because of cost saving and better finishes on the final product.

Captain Awesome · 03-09-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 8863

This type of automotive paint is not something new. GM and other car companies used waterborne paint as far back as the early 70's. GM had a plant in South Gate California that built Vega's and Monza's, I know, not necessarily good cars, which were sprayed with waterborne paint. Guess what, the solvent based painted cars rusted out the same as the waterborne painted cars did. I have seen West Coast Customs and Overhaulin explain the use of waterborne automotive paint which I think they use exclusively now. I have a couple of high end body shops in my area who have switched over to waterborne paint. They were not forced to do this by any governing body, they chose to do it because of cost saving and better finishes on the final product.

If you believe that, you probably also believe that humans can change the weather more than mother nature and the sun.

03-09-2013, 11:18 AM	#83
8863 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2LT RS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ft Wayne Indiana Posts: 41	Don't like waterborne paint? This type of automotive paint is not something new. GM and other car companies used waterborne paint as far back as the early 70's. GM had a plant in South Gate California that built Vega's and Monza's, I know, not necessarily good cars, which were sprayed with waterborne paint. Guess what, the solvent based painted cars rusted out the same as the waterborne painted cars did. I have seen West Coast Customs and Overhaulin explain the use of waterborne automotive paint which I think they use exclusively now. I have a couple of high end body shops in my area who have switched over to waterborne paint. They were not forced to do this by any governing body, they chose to do it because of cost saving and better finishes on the final product.