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ZuluKilla8 · 01-25-2010, 10:46 AM

As the title says, my buddy has a 2003 RS6 and thinks he will DESTROY my SS, I know the RS is faster, but I think the SS would keep up, not get totally DESTORYED....your thoughts? 03 RS6 has Twin Trubo V8, making 450 HP, 0-60 in 4.3

EDISKRAD EHT · 01-25-2010, 10:50 AM

I think it'll be a pretty healthy spanking. Those RS6's are pretty quick car. Lots of low end torque, AWD, and a quick shifting tranny will make it pretty hard for him to screw up.

SWAT 79 · 01-25-2010, 03:45 PM

You'll need a few bolt ons to keep up, they will get really nasty up top, and the awd off the line will beat you pretty good too.

a_Username · 01-25-2010, 03:51 PM

RS6 > SS.

LS3SSRS · 01-25-2010, 04:44 PM

http://www.audiworld.com/model/rs6/03/03rs6.pdf

go to the bottom, 0-60 in 4.6, quarter mile in 14.1. you would get him in the quarter...

EDISKRAD EHT · 01-25-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LS3SSRS

http://www.audiworld.com/model/rs6/03/03rs6.pdf

go to the bottom, 0-60 in 4.6, quarter mile in 14.1. you would get him in the quarter...

Magazine racers don't always win.

The RS6 is a mid 12's car (easily) in stock form.

Just do the math. The source you gave is way off.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 01-25-2010, 06:59 PM

RS6 4.3 12.6

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

LS3SSRS · 01-26-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BackinBlackSS/RS

RS6 4.3 12.6

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

thats more like it.

*DGthe3* · 01-26-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EDISKRAD EHT

Magazine racers don't always win.

The RS6 is a mid 12's car (easily) in stock form.

Just do the math. The source you gave is way off.

5 speed, 450 hp, ~4000 lbs, AWD. Its gearing is no more aggressive than in the Camaro. Why shouldn't it be roughly equal to the Camaro? Most of the advantage of AWD is in 0-60, but it robs power. It would win an 1/8 mile race, but the gap would narrow slightly in the 1/4. Was the 14.1s time slow? Sure. But I don't think they'd be getting mid 12's that easily. I'd expect high 12's to be encountered regularly, when the Camaro with an equal driver would be ~13s.

*The_Blur* · 01-26-2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

5 speed, 450 hp, ~4000 lbs, AWD. Its gearing is no more aggressive than in the Camaro. Why shouldn't it be roughly equal to the Camaro? Most of the advantage of AWD is in 0-60, but it robs power. It would win an 1/8 mile race, but the gap would narrow slightly in the 1/4. Was the 14.1s time slow? Sure. But I don't think they'd be getting mid 12's that easily. I'd expect high 12's to be encountered regularly, when the Camaro with an equal driver would be ~13s.

They're not too far apart. Hurry and get an exhaust and a tune before the race.

THE EVIL TW1N · 01-26-2010, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

5 speed, 450 hp, ~4000 lbs, AWD. Its gearing is no more aggressive than in the Camaro. Why shouldn't it be roughly equal to the Camaro? Most of the advantage of AWD is in 0-60, but it robs power. It would win an 1/8 mile race, but the gap would narrow slightly in the 1/4. Was the 14.1s time slow? Sure. But I don't think they'd be getting mid 12's that easily. I'd expect high 12's to be encountered regularly, when the Camaro with an equal driver would be ~13s.

I don't think the camaro would have enough to narrow the lead the RS6 would put on it, but it should be able to stop the bleeding on the second half. Past the 1/4 it would probably start to slowly reel it in.

*DGthe3* · 01-26-2010, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

I don't think the camaro would have enough to narrow the lead the RS6 would put on it, but it should be able to stop the bleeding on the second half. Past the 1/4 it would probably start to slowly reel it in.

Maybe, I'm basing it off the fact that an AWD car with 450 hp will be putting about the same power to the ground as an LS3 Camaro. With an extra ~200 lbs and no real gearing advantage, the Camaro will gain after the RS6 gets the initial lead. We can agree on that much. Now, will it start clawing its way back after a few hundred feet or will it need 1000+'? Getting into such fine details is beyond my bench racing skills. Either way, all it does is makes it a closer race and not a Camaro win.

Kurt_OH · 01-29-2010, 11:29 PM

The Audi has more horsepower, a better power to weight ratio, and WAY better traction. It's going to leave the Camaro and do nothing but INCREASE the lead it grabs right off the start the longer they race.

Find an Audi to race without an "R" in the name.

*DGthe3* · 01-30-2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurt_OH

The Audi has more horsepower, a better power to weight ratio, and WAY better traction. It's going to leave the Camaro and do nothing but INCREASE the lead it grabs right off the start the longer they race.

Find an Audi to race without an "R" in the name.

how is 9.13 lb/hp (4057/444) better than 9.06 (426/3860)? And thats from crank hp. The AWD system in the Audi will rob a few more percent than in the RWD Camaro, giving them roughly the same wheel hp. But thats splitting hairs in my opinion.

01-25-2010, 10:46 AM	#1
ZuluKilla8 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS RJT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 831	LS3 SS V. RS6 As the title says, my buddy has a 2003 RS6 and thinks he will DESTROY my SS, I know the RS is faster, but I think the SS would keep up, not get totally DESTORYED....your thoughts? 03 RS6 has Twin Trubo V8, making 450 HP, 0-60 in 4.3

01-25-2010, 04:44 PM	#5
LS3SSRS Drives: 2010 IBM SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 805	http://www.audiworld.com/model/rs6/03/03rs6.pdf go to the bottom, 0-60 in 4.6, quarter mile in 14.1. you would get him in the quarter... __________________ sold 2010 2SS/RS, 6spd manual, imperial blue metallic w/black leather Blacked out tail/signal lights, 5% rear tint, 20% sides, Dynomax Bullet mufflers, Barton short throw shifter, Clear Image offroad downpipes

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Kurt_OH Member Drives: BMW, Hyundai Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 192 View My Garage	The Audi has more horsepower, a better power to weight ratio, and WAY better traction. It's going to leave the Camaro and do nothing but INCREASE the lead it grabs right off the start the longer they race. Find an Audi to race without an "R" in the name. __________________ 2003 Hyundai Elantra GT - going 1998 Dodge Neon - gone 1993 Jeep Grand Cherokee - gone 1988 Mustang GT - gone 1970 Comet w/427BBC drag car - gone 1985 Nissan Pulsar - gone Wagon/Sedans/Yuk - gone 1970 Nova w/350 - gone 1970 Camaro w/350 - gone 1970 Chevelle w/350 - gone 1966 Chevy II SS 327 - gone 1968 Camaro w/327 - gone

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01-25-2010, 10:50 AM	#2
EDISKRAD EHT Drives: Blown Goat Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 76	I think it'll be a pretty healthy spanking. Those RS6's are pretty quick car. Lots of low end torque, AWD, and a quick shifting tranny will make it pretty hard for him to screw up.

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SWAT 79 Drives: 2005 Cadillac CTS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 448	You'll need a few bolt ons to keep up, they will get really nasty up top, and the awd off the line will beat you pretty good too.

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