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Bad@ssCamaro · 06-27-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by heRS

If you are into the dragstrip. Screaming success elsewise.

The 1LE is being designed for the strip though so watch out!

it's designed to handle the twisty roads & road courses

G8GT4now · 06-27-2012, 02:26 PM

About time we had a comparison between the rivals.

No real surprises if you ask me. I do agree that each fan boy will like their car regardless of the outcome.

2012ZL1 · 06-27-2012, 02:29 PM

omg

How long are the mods going to let us drown in bench racing before they get rid of these threads?

Bad@ssCamaro · 06-27-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pdari

Damn, that puts it really clear. It hurts me to look at it. Time to put the LS9 in the ZL1!

How Manly will these guys be in another 5 -10 years of DD in the GT500

Rcfiddy1 · 06-27-2012, 02:36 PM

Why do most people overlook the obvious when it comes to these 2 cars. Best bang for the buck is the GT500 hands down. It outperforms 2 out of 3 tests in the original post. We are talking a outright spanking off the showroom floor. Give it a few mods and I am sure it would get even worse. Ford has stepped up the game and if GM doesn't soon it will be a shame. If you want to say "well the ZL1 is better on the street" good for you and make sure you tell that to the gt500 when you pull up next to one at the track, if you actually take it there. I love my camaro but I am not brand loyal at all. If I were to do it again I would be looking at a SRT8 Grand Cherokee since it can do everything I want it to and even drive in the snow. So when I see a GT500 in the middle of winter I will win!

shaffe · 06-27-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lonny Doyle

If GM was offering an $8000 dollar power package to match the $8000 dollar performance package that the reviewers always seem to include when comparing the ZL1 to the GT500 would this make it closer to an apples to apples test or should they be testing both vehicles at base price?

Or does everyone, including Ford fans, think it is fair comparing a $64,770 GT500 against a $56,365 ZL1?

I bet most Camaro fans thought it was fair comparing the 56K Supercharged ZL1 to the the 48K N/A BOSS 302 LS?

Im sure if the Camaro had performance options MT woould have had them on the test car.

Both are great cars. Faster than I would ever need hahaha, but I would sure love either one in my driveway

Topher3134 · 06-27-2012, 02:47 PM

How long are the mods going to let us drown in bench racing before they get rid of these threads?[/QUOTE]

^ I was unaware that they taped u to a chair and made u read this thread. Just saying. I don't read threads in the v6 area. Or all the threads about whatever I don't care about.

rez333 · 06-27-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Topher3134

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How long are the mods going to let us drown in bench racing before they get rid of these threads?

^ I was unaware that they taped u to a chair and made u read this thread. Just saying. I don't read threads in the v6 area. Or all the threads about whatever I don't care about.

There are forum Nazis everywhere. It's really easy to detect them - they're always wanting to ban people and close threads. You can just see their heads explode when they open up threads they know they'll hate so they can bring out the ban flag.

hognutz · 06-27-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rez333

You guys aren't getting it.

It's not about comfort.

It's not about magnetic suspension.

It's not about LRA vs IRS.

It's not about power.

It's all about brakes. The GT500 lost because of brakes.

Let's talk about that.

shelby has brake heat issue and carries less speed throught the corners. if you look at the overlay there no way all the time was made up just in the brake zones on lap 1.

hognutz · 06-27-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rcfiddy1

Why do most people overlook the obvious when it comes to these 2 cars. Best bang for the buck is the GT500 hands down. It outperforms 2 out of 3 tests in the original post. We are talking a outright spanking off the showroom floor. Give it a few mods and I am sure it would get even worse. Ford has stepped up the game and if GM doesn't soon it will be a shame. If you want to say "well the ZL1 is better on the street" good for you and make sure you tell that to the gt500 when you pull up next to one at the track, if you actually take it there. I love my camaro but I am not brand loyal at all. If I were to do it again I would be looking at a SRT8 Grand Cherokee since it can do everything I want it to and even drive in the snow. So when I see a GT500 in the middle of winter I will win!

at the drag strip yes

at the road coarse no

if the TP/PP car can't complete 3 laps what does the stock coupe do there?

if oil temps are in danger level with an oil cooler how bad is it without?

or is the TP/PP a waste of money and the normal couple not that bad?

alex33x · 06-27-2012, 03:15 PM

Nice I've been waiting for this.

Revo1 · 06-27-2012, 03:19 PM

Power is easier to increase than handling ability. Damned close race between two titans, to the victor go the spoils!

69NMYSS · 06-27-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rcfiddy1

Why do most people overlook the obvious when it comes to these 2 cars. Best bang for the buck is the GT500 hands down. It outperforms 2 out of 3 tests in the original post. We are talking a outright spanking off the showroom floor. Give it a few mods and I am sure it would get even worse. Ford has stepped up the game and if GM doesn't soon it will be a shame. If you want to say "well the ZL1 is better on the street" good for you and make sure you tell that to the gt500 when you pull up next to one at the track, if you actually take it there. I love my camaro but I am not brand loyal at all. If I were to do it again I would be looking at a SRT8 Grand Cherokee since it can do everything I want it to and even drive in the snow. So when I see a GT500 in the middle of winter I will win!

I don’t agree with your statement, if talking about the best bang for the buck the ZL1 is a better buy due to the $5k price advantage when comparing equally equipped vehicles. If you price out the GT500 with the track pack and PP it is going to cost over $5k more than the ZL1. If you use that $5k on power mods for the ZL1 now you have two vehicles with the same amount of money in them and the ZL1 would now completely dominate the GT500 in probably every category for the same amount of money.

Do you think the BASE GT500 is a better bang for the buck than the BASE ZL1?

8cd03gro · 06-27-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

at the drag strip yes

at the road coarse no

if the TP/PP car can't complete 3 laps what does the stock coupe do there?

if oil temps are in danger level with an oil cooler how bad is it without?

or is the TP/PP a waste of money and the normal couple not that bad?

Can't complete 3 laps? What article are you reading?

06-27-2012, 02:29 PM	#101
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06-27-2012, 02:36 PM	#103
Rcfiddy1 Sold car... Drives: 2010 Rally Yellow 2SS/RS #37115 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Manalapan, New Jersey Posts: 2,019 View My Garage	Why do most people overlook the obvious when it comes to these 2 cars. Best bang for the buck is the GT500 hands down. It outperforms 2 out of 3 tests in the original post. We are talking a outright spanking off the showroom floor. Give it a few mods and I am sure it would get even worse. Ford has stepped up the game and if GM doesn't soon it will be a shame. If you want to say "well the ZL1 is better on the street" good for you and make sure you tell that to the gt500 when you pull up next to one at the track, if you actually take it there. I love my camaro but I am not brand loyal at all. If I were to do it again I would be looking at a SRT8 Grand Cherokee since it can do everything I want it to and even drive in the snow. So when I see a GT500 in the middle of winter I will win! __________________ Build Thread ECS Novi 1500 Supercharged, LS3 conversion, Small blower cam, Alky Meth injection, 3:45 rear, BMR Suspension parts, 1LE Sways, Billy Boat ZL1 dual mode exhaust.

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06-27-2012, 03:19 PM	#110
Revo1 Don't Like it? Suggit. Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 14,832 View My Garage	Power is easier to increase than handling ability. Damned close race between two titans, to the victor go the spoils! __________________ "Tops off, tach up baby- loud and proud!" A Camaro lover from day one- 1996 3.8 V6 Camaro, to 1996 5.7 LT1 Camaro Z28, to the sold 2002 5.7 LS1 Camaro SS, and NOW, a [I]6.2 L99 VR 2SS/RS: XS Power stainless full exhaust, Airaid CAI, BMR drop springs and sways, custom tune by Cal Speed- 411rwhp

06-27-2012, 02:26 PM	#100
G8GT4now Drives: 14 SS Sedan Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 474	About time we had a comparison between the rivals. No real surprises if you ask me. I do agree that each fan boy will like their car regardless of the outcome.

06-27-2012, 02:47 PM	#105
Topher3134 Drives: delete me Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: delete me Posts: 418	How long are the mods going to let us drown in bench racing before they get rid of these threads?[/QUOTE] ^ I was unaware that they taped u to a chair and made u read this thread. Just saying. I don't read threads in the v6 area. Or all the threads about whatever I don't care about.