5th gen vs 4th gen

[sweaver]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I'm sure you meant 426 hp, not 326. Anyway, the 5.0L 412 practically splits the difference between the L99 and LS3, our 6.2L engines so I'd say his statement is valid.

[sweaver]

Originally Posted by 0-60n4.6

thank you sweaver and pharmd for making my point....yes the new SS is a fast car and looks great but you new SS owner plz dont start with its the fastes car in the world thing...lets call it like it is ok it runs good but not as good as everyone thought it would sertenly not as quick as i thought it would be...great motor just to heavy of a car

I was just giving credit to Ford, And Pharmd was giving credit to the 4th gen LS1's, Neither of us was, By any means was saying the 5th Gen Camaro is too heavy and slow, If you want to stock to stock, Then obviously the Camaro is not the fastest car in the world,
But it is the fastest car in its class!

[0-60n4.6]

yeah 1/4 12.874 at 104.159 1/8 8.433 at 88.585 60ft 2.117...im not saying the 5th gen is slow just saying its not as fast as i thought it would be when the specs first came out...i thought it would be a monster but a lightly moded s197 will keep up with a stock 5th gen

[SamIyam]

11.05 on the rollers... what does it do at the track?

Sam

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I'm sure you meant 426 hp, not 326. Anyway, the 5.0L 412 practically splits the difference between the L99 and LS3, our 6.2L engines so I'd say his statement is valid.

so the 4.6 does make 350hp then?

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by 0-60n4.6

yeah 1/4 12.874 at 104.159 1/8 8.433 at 88.585 60ft 2.117...im not saying the 5th gen is slow just saying its not as fast as i thought it would be when the specs first came out...i thought it would be a monster but a lightly moded s197 will keep up with a stock 5th gen

it's not as fast as i thought it would be either

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by big hammer

so the 4.6 does make 350hp then?

No, but LS1 Camaros didn't either. Thats why I ignored that part of your post

[0-60n4.6]

Im glad we both agree on that BIG HAMMER

[sweaver]

Originally Posted by SamIyam

11.05 on the rollers... what does it do at the track?

Sam

If your refering to my car It ran 11.05 at the track, Watch the video!
It also ran an 11.02 at the lsx shootout, Stock tranny,Stall,suspension, At only 7 lbs of boost, Once the weather breaks we will be in the ten's easily!

[Black5thgen]

Originally Posted by djm96z28

Don't underestimate the LT1. I just don't believe the new V6 can take an LT1.

Trust me, I'm not one to underestimate LT1's, with the right combo of mods they run right with LS1's. Problem is you have to have the right combo with these cars.

Originally Posted by 0-60n4.6

I ran a 12.8 3 weeks ago at Dallas raceway with a 2.1 60ft time 8.5 1/8 and a 104 TS...you have almost the same mods as i do black5thgen minus my 390 gears so i wouldnt be tooo proud of that 12.7 i mean come on i have a SMALL 4.6 rem

So my car is faster than yours and yours is set up more for a 1/4 mile pass and I shouldn't be too proud? My buddy was running consistent 13.7's in his bone stock S197 that day, so they don't really impress me. Gears are a great equalizer in 1320 ft. Congrats on a nice pass, but I'm still happy with my car.

[Malice]

Back to the original arguement: I'd say that the battle between 5th gens and 4th gens is a drivers race.

My 99 trans am auto ran consistent 13.50's at 104 in showroom stock form in warm weather.
My 10 SS ran consistent 13.50's at 107 in warm weather. Now in cool weather it runs 13.10's at 108

[0-60n4.6]

yeah i agree you have a faster car 0-160 but you wont start pulling away until 110 and your not stock so what is your argument

[Black5thgen]

I don't have an argument, I just believe that you car has a few things more than a CAI, tune and gears to run a 12.8

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

No, but LS1 Camaros didn't either. Thats why I ignored that part of your post

yes they did. all ls1's made 350 crank hp. gm underrated the ls1 fbody.