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Bigtime53 · 06-07-2015, 05:14 PM

Just curious about this. Since the almighty Hellcat has been out and all of the attention it has had would you trade in your current ZL1 if GM offered a ZL1 with 725hp? I have not seen or heard of anyone on here that has traded their car in for a hellcat but if GM offered this 725hp package I know you would have to tie me down to keep me from trading mine in. Would this make you want one?

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 06-07-2015, 05:15 PM

there is no 2016 ZL1 coming out.

damian559 · 06-07-2015, 05:23 PM

There is no 2016 ZL1, and if there was it wouldn't have more power than 650.

motorhead · 06-07-2015, 05:24 PM

Very clever wording to get people to read your post. Lol
I would buy a 2016 with 700HP + no matter what they called it.

angryBits · 06-07-2015, 05:42 PM

What 725hp package? You just made it up.

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Originally Posted by Bigtime53

I have not seen or heard of anyone on here that has traded their car in for a hellcat but if GM offered this 725hp package I...

What does HP have to do with it?
If you want HP then you SHOULD go buy a Hellcat.
If you want a car with power and can still find its way around a track, keep your ZL1. Otherwise why would anyone trade their ZL1 in for a Hellcat.

Seems like a silly comparison.

Besides, we already know the new CTS-V will have 640hp Seen Here
So IF there were a Gen6 ZL1 it would not be too far off.

1LE 2NV · 06-07-2015, 06:30 PM

The fact that camaro weighs over 500 pounds less means u dont need as much hp. Challenger pigcat definitely need all that power.

hognutz · 06-07-2015, 07:31 PM

honestly it is so easy to make 725 crank HP on this car taking the resale hit just for the "power" would be stupid to me.

I would not sell this car just for hp. there would have to be more coming to the table. It's why the hellcat is meaningless to me. It does not handle. It barely runs faster laps than a 1le or mustang get even though it has almost 300 more HP.

I don't see the 2017 or 18 when ever they release the camaro z?? getting anything other than the LT4.

the 8 speed auto car though would be a 10 second car most likely. the styling will would have to be tweaked more for me to buy one though. it is not doing it for me to date.

big dave · 06-07-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

honestly it is so easy to make 725 crank HP on this car taking the resale hit just for the "power" would be stupid to me.

I would not sell this car just for hp. there would have to be more coming to the table. It's why the hellcat is meaningless to me. It does not handle. It barely runs faster laps than a 1le or mustang get even though it has almost 300 more HP.

I don't see the 2017 or 18 when ever they release the camaro z?? getting anything other than the LT4.

the 8 speed auto car though would be a 10 second car most likely. the styling will would have to be tweaked more for me to buy one though. it is not doing it for me to date.

True, it wouldn't be a problem to get over 700 crank hp from the current gen Z, but not everyone wants to mod their cars. I, for one, would like to get as much hp as I can from the factory. I do agree though that a new gen camaro Z? with 640 hp, and an 8 speed auto would be 10 second capable. We'll see, only time will tell. All I know is, enjoy these fantastic times we're living in because as a car enthusiast it's hard to imagine it getting much better than this.

angryBits · 06-07-2015, 08:39 PM

Yeah a 200lb lighter ZL1 with 650hp from the factory would be awesome though on paper that still puts it as a lower performer than the GT500... Paper specs :/ Theres so much more to a car.

big dave · 06-07-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by angryBits

Yeah a 200lb lighter ZL1 with 650hp from the factory would be awesome though on paper that still puts it as a lower performer than the GT500... Paper specs :/ Theres so much more to a car.

For now, there is no GT500 so I wouldn't worry about matching it's performance. From what I've seen, most GT500 owners can't handle the power that car puts out anyways.

. I do understand that GM is concentrating more on the total package, but hp sells cars. I don't think most folks who pick up a magazine care about what the car ran around VIR or "the ring", at least I don't. The first page I turn to is how quick does it cover the 1/4 mile. I'm shallow that way. lol!! Don't get me wrong, I appreciate every time I drive my ZL1 just how well balanced the car is, but I do sometimes find myself wishing it had more power to offset its weight.

hotlap · 06-07-2015, 09:34 PM

The current ZL1 has so much potential that a gen6 would need to be extreme for it to be worth taking the depreciation hit. My plan since before I bought mine was to mod it to ~700ish HP as a summer car and buy a nicely optioned gen6 SS as a driver after they're out a few year and the deals surface. Muscular gen5 and refined gen6

I can't afford to flip cars every three years so I buy carefully and keep them long term.

2013 ZL1 #7860 · 06-07-2015, 09:55 PM

no I would not trade

macwest · 06-07-2015, 10:34 PM

From what I have seen if you want to see on the upcoming zl1 or z28 watch the new ford mustang and figure gm will be around it in HP. The two companies seem to match each other on Hp increases.

As for trades not likely. Just not sure if I will switch laterally to a ZL1 I want to stroke my ls3 but in Comifornia and their smog rules not sure how reasonable it will be to pass smog. An LSA may be more reasonable to hit the HP numbers I want.

Bigtime53 · 06-07-2015, 10:35 PM

You guys must not read very well! I said IF gm offered it. Before you all start jumping up and saying there wont be one in 2016 do you know for sure?

06-07-2015, 05:14 PM	#1
Bigtime53 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,298	2016 ZL1 725HP FROM GM? Just curious about this. Since the almighty Hellcat has been out and all of the attention it has had would you trade in your current ZL1 if GM offered a ZL1 with 725hp? I have not seen or heard of anyone on here that has traded their car in for a hellcat but if GM offered this 725hp package I know you would have to tie me down to keep me from trading mine in. Would this make you want one? Last edited by Bigtime53; 06-09-2015 at 05:28 PM. Reason: edit

06-07-2015, 05:23 PM	#3
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06-07-2015, 08:39 PM	#9
angryBits Drives: ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: CA Posts: 1,093	Yeah a 200lb lighter ZL1 with 650hp from the factory would be awesome though on paper that still puts it as a lower performer than the GT500... Paper specs :/ Theres so much more to a car. __________________ Current: 2019 ZL1 1LE A10 Mods: MPS4s Tires \| Borla Atak \| CF Steering Wheel Previous: 2018 ZL1 1LE M6 \| 2017 Z06 Z07 M7 \| 2017 GS A8 \| 2015 ZL1 M6 \| 2013 GT500

06-07-2015, 09:34 PM	#11
hotlap Drives: 20 1LE 2SS M6 Rally Green Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Franklin WI Posts: 6,632	The current ZL1 has so much potential that a gen6 would need to be extreme for it to be worth taking the depreciation hit. My plan since before I bought mine was to mod it to ~700ish HP as a summer car and buy a nicely optioned gen6 SS as a driver after they're out a few year and the deals surface. Muscular gen5 and refined gen6 I can't afford to flip cars every three years so I buy carefully and keep them long term. __________________ "the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” Ronald Reagan -

06-07-2015, 10:34 PM	#13
macwest Drives: 10 Camaro 2SS/RS, 70 Cuda, 71 Cuda Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oakley - Northern California Posts: 1,156 View My Garage	From what I have seen if you want to see on the upcoming zl1 or z28 watch the new ford mustang and figure gm will be around it in HP. The two companies seem to match each other on Hp increases. As for trades not likely. Just not sure if I will switch laterally to a ZL1 I want to stroke my ls3 but in Comifornia and their smog rules not sure how reasonable it will be to pass smog. An LSA may be more reasonable to hit the HP numbers I want. __________________ "Z28 = first time I bought a new car just to strip parts for my current ride. GM needs to re-think restricted parts. "

06-07-2015, 05:15 PM	#2
2SSRS@Gen5diy Drives: 2014 Z/28 #82+#192, 18ZLE 66Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: By the lake in AZ Posts: 15,719 View My Garage	there is no 2016 ZL1 coming out.

06-07-2015, 05:24 PM	#4
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	Very clever wording to get people to read your post. Lol I would buy a 2016 with 700HP + no matter what they called it.

06-07-2015, 06:30 PM	#6
1LE 2NV Drives: '14 Summit White 2ss 1le Rs Npp Nav Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 176	The fact that camaro weighs over 500 pounds less means u dont need as much hp. Challenger pigcat definitely need all that power.

06-07-2015, 07:31 PM	#7
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	honestly it is so easy to make 725 crank HP on this car taking the resale hit just for the "power" would be stupid to me. I would not sell this car just for hp. there would have to be more coming to the table. It's why the hellcat is meaningless to me. It does not handle. It barely runs faster laps than a 1le or mustang get even though it has almost 300 more HP. I don't see the 2017 or 18 when ever they release the camaro z?? getting anything other than the LT4. the 8 speed auto car though would be a 10 second car most likely. the styling will would have to be tweaked more for me to buy one though. it is not doing it for me to date. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

06-07-2015, 09:55 PM	#12
2013 ZL1 #7860 Drives: 2013 ZL1 A6 #7860 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: CO, USA Posts: 1,279	no I would not trade

06-07-2015, 10:35 PM	#14
Bigtime53 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,298	You guys must not read very well! I said IF gm offered it. Before you all start jumping up and saying there wont be one in 2016 do you know for sure?