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CamaroRS2011 · 03-31-2014, 01:11 PM

I just got an ls3 SS last week after trading in my 2LT RS. The old one was an auto, but the new one is manual, which I love, but I keep having one problem. My shift into second keeps grinding if I try to shift pretty quickly. I am used to just pulling straight back to get into second but it seems to want to go back and to the left. Has anyone else had this problem? Just curious if it is common or just me or my car? thanks in advance

Quick · 03-31-2014, 01:16 PM

Every time you grind a shift you are damaging the synchronizers.Eventually it will not go into gear at all...avoid the grind or transmission rebuilds are in your near future.

nyrfan · 03-31-2014, 01:17 PM

I don't have an LS3 but I've read many posts where people talk about the "2nd gear grind".

Look here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...ww.camaro5.com

Jims Mongoose · 03-31-2014, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroRS2011

I just got an ls3 SS last week after trading in my 2LT RS. The old one was an auto, but the new one is manual, which I love, but I keep having one problem. My shift into second keeps grinding if I try to shift pretty quickly. I am used to just pulling straight back to get into second but it seems to want to go back and to the left. Has anyone else had this problem? Just curious if it is common or just me or my car? thanks in advance

Unless something is wrong with the shift gate it's straight back.

Remember when you are out just shifting slowly trying to make the shifts smooth and slipping the clutch to do so, you can get into bad habits.

The leg extension for the clutch will not require you to put the clutch all the way to the floor for slow shifting, but when going quick, you have to get that clutch pedal most of the way down. Like you are trying to put your foot through the floor. Especially true if you are barely letting up on the throttle or not letting up at all ( what some call power shifting).

That's why I sometimes practice faster shifting even though I am not at WOT. Gets your muscle memory into a rhythm.

Set up seat so that you get full extension and can bottom out clutch pedal when you need to.

Just my 2.345 cents

Jim

CamaroRS2011 · 03-31-2014, 02:23 PM

Thanks for the link to that thread! I guess it's not just me but I wish I was the problem, not the car...

Chevy_cowboy · 03-31-2014, 02:32 PM

Don't get in a hurry until you get used to it a bit. I've been driving sticks all my life but they're all a little different. Once you get smooth and have the muscle memory down, then you can go for fast shifts.

skipinminn · 03-31-2014, 03:51 PM

reember the Skip shift thingy. buy a skip shift elmanator

CamaroRS2011 · 03-31-2014, 03:56 PM

It doesn't have skip shift anymore. This isn't caused by letting out the clutch too early or not letting off the gas it just happens when the rpms are 3000+ or something like that. And only in second

Chevy_cowboy · 03-31-2014, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skipinminn

reember the Skip shift thingy. buy a skip shift elmanator

that wont cause a grind, just locks you out of 2nd. I've got a eliminator but haven't put it on, the only time I've ever seen it trigger the 1-4 message is when I was trying to make it happen. Seems like unless you drive like a grandpa it never pops up.

Jims73z · 03-31-2014, 06:09 PM

Most likely used car problems. Maybe have a trans shop drive it, you may just need to live with it or it could be a clutch issue.

TigerFA · 03-31-2014, 06:11 PM

Some Questions in front:

1. is your car new?

2. How cold?

3. Do you give her time to warm up?

4. First time Manual ever?

Will give you some advice learnt manual shift since my driving time and just got MY2014 in January during winter, keep cool its probably just an operating mistake.

CamaroRS2011 · 03-31-2014, 06:18 PM

Car is not new, roughly 42,000 miles. It has the clutch and flywheel from the ls9. Happens both cold and warm. First daily driven manual but I have driven manual before and not had this issue, but the other cars were not camaros.

steakmaker · 03-31-2014, 06:22 PM

I wonder if this is the "SS" we were told about in another post where the repo man beat the sh-t out of the Camaro,before delivered for auction resale.

Dupree878 · 03-31-2014, 06:41 PM

I vote that whomever put those 42k miles on it was a crappy driver.
Mine is finicky in second when cold, and occasionally when 'performance' shifting, but it still goes in-just hard

03-31-2014, 01:11 PM	#1
CamaroRS2011 Drives: white 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE Join Date: May 2013 Location: houston Posts: 146	getting used to shifting on the ls3 I just got an ls3 SS last week after trading in my 2LT RS. The old one was an auto, but the new one is manual, which I love, but I keep having one problem. My shift into second keeps grinding if I try to shift pretty quickly. I am used to just pulling straight back to get into second but it seems to want to go back and to the left. Has anyone else had this problem? Just curious if it is common or just me or my car? thanks in advance __________________ (previous) Black 2011 2LT RS - (performance) Vararam intake, bbk LT headers and HF cats, solo catback, rx ported throttle body, trifecta tune, FTI 3400 stall converter (suspension) Eibach drop springs and saw bars. (previous) 2010 2SS RS- airaid intake, ported tb, g6x3 cam, ZR1 twin disk clutch, kooks 1-7/8 headers, full 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow mufflers, h&r springs, eibach sway bars, hurst short throw shifter. 410wtq 450 whp (Now) 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE- night fury, pfadt headers, NPP, CAI intake, some other performance mods, some suspension mods and some exterior mods. 495whp 430wtq

03-31-2014, 01:16 PM	#2
Quick Drives: 2012 Camaro SS 45th Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Union City,Tn. Posts: 858	Every time you grind a shift you are damaging the synchronizers.Eventually it will not go into gear at all...avoid the grind or transmission rebuilds are in your near future. __________________ OBX 1 7/8 LT's w/high flow cats. Doug Thorley catback w/x pipe. Cold air intake by CAI w/apex scoop.V-max ported throttle body.DynoSpeed tuned by Forest.369 rwhp/385 rwtq Something wicked this way cometh...

03-31-2014, 01:17 PM	#3
nyrfan Let's go Rangers! Drives: 13' AGM 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 10,742 View My Garage	I don't have an LS3 but I've read many posts where people talk about the "2nd gear grind". Look here: https://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...ww.camaro5.com __________________ Soprano 4/1/00-6/14/11, Gone but NEVER forgotten! FSP tuned: 377/389

03-31-2014, 02:23 PM	#5
CamaroRS2011 Drives: white 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE Join Date: May 2013 Location: houston Posts: 146	Thanks for the link to that thread! I guess it's not just me but I wish I was the problem, not the car... __________________ (previous) Black 2011 2LT RS - (performance) Vararam intake, bbk LT headers and HF cats, solo catback, rx ported throttle body, trifecta tune, FTI 3400 stall converter (suspension) Eibach drop springs and saw bars. (previous) 2010 2SS RS- airaid intake, ported tb, g6x3 cam, ZR1 twin disk clutch, kooks 1-7/8 headers, full 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow mufflers, h&r springs, eibach sway bars, hurst short throw shifter. 410wtq 450 whp (Now) 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE- night fury, pfadt headers, NPP, CAI intake, some other performance mods, some suspension mods and some exterior mods. 495whp 430wtq

03-31-2014, 02:32 PM	#6
Chevy_cowboy Drives: 2011 IOM 2SS/RS M6 Convertible Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,287 View My Garage	Don't get in a hurry until you get used to it a bit. I've been driving sticks all my life but they're all a little different. Once you get smooth and have the muscle memory down, then you can go for fast shifts. __________________

03-31-2014, 03:51 PM	#7
skipinminn Chiquita Drives: 2013 1LE/1SS YELLO1LE 1 of Only 28 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Mpls. Mn./Hudson,Wi. Posts: 4,740 View My Garage	reember the Skip shift thingy. buy a skip shift elmanator

03-31-2014, 03:56 PM	#8
CamaroRS2011 Drives: white 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE Join Date: May 2013 Location: houston Posts: 146	It doesn't have skip shift anymore. This isn't caused by letting out the clutch too early or not letting off the gas it just happens when the rpms are 3000+ or something like that. And only in second __________________ (previous) Black 2011 2LT RS - (performance) Vararam intake, bbk LT headers and HF cats, solo catback, rx ported throttle body, trifecta tune, FTI 3400 stall converter (suspension) Eibach drop springs and saw bars. (previous) 2010 2SS RS- airaid intake, ported tb, g6x3 cam, ZR1 twin disk clutch, kooks 1-7/8 headers, full 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow mufflers, h&r springs, eibach sway bars, hurst short throw shifter. 410wtq 450 whp (Now) 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE- night fury, pfadt headers, NPP, CAI intake, some other performance mods, some suspension mods and some exterior mods. 495whp 430wtq

03-31-2014, 06:09 PM	#10
Jims73z Drives: 1973 z28 Rs , 2012 SS/Rs Blk/Blk M6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Posts: 197	Most likely used car problems. Maybe have a trans shop drive it, you may just need to live with it or it could be a clutch issue.

03-31-2014, 06:11 PM	#11
TigerFA Drives: Camaro 2SS 2017 Red Hot Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: PA, Philadelphia and Germany Posts: 232 View My Garage	Some Questions in front: 1. is your car new? 2. How cold? 3. Do you give her time to warm up? 4. First time Manual ever? Will give you some advice learnt manual shift since my driving time and just got MY2014 in January during winter, keep cool its probably just an operating mistake. __________________ Greetz Steve 2017 2SS, 2014 2SS 1LE, 2014 2SS

03-31-2014, 06:18 PM	#12
CamaroRS2011 Drives: white 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE Join Date: May 2013 Location: houston Posts: 146	Car is not new, roughly 42,000 miles. It has the clutch and flywheel from the ls9. Happens both cold and warm. First daily driven manual but I have driven manual before and not had this issue, but the other cars were not camaros. __________________ (previous) Black 2011 2LT RS - (performance) Vararam intake, bbk LT headers and HF cats, solo catback, rx ported throttle body, trifecta tune, FTI 3400 stall converter (suspension) Eibach drop springs and saw bars. (previous) 2010 2SS RS- airaid intake, ported tb, g6x3 cam, ZR1 twin disk clutch, kooks 1-7/8 headers, full 3" exhaust w/ magnaflow mufflers, h&r springs, eibach sway bars, hurst short throw shifter. 410wtq 450 whp (Now) 2013 2SS/RS 1/LE- night fury, pfadt headers, NPP, CAI intake, some other performance mods, some suspension mods and some exterior mods. 495whp 430wtq

03-31-2014, 06:22 PM	#13
steakmaker Drives: '10 Camaro SS,Jeep Commander Hemi Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cicero,NY Posts: 567	I wonder if this is the "SS" we were told about in another post where the repo man beat the sh-t out of the Camaro,before delivered for auction resale.

03-31-2014, 06:41 PM	#14
Dupree878 Drives: '13 Dusk Edition 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 600	I vote that whomever put those 42k miles on it was a crappy driver. Mine is finicky in second when cold, and occasionally when 'performance' shifting, but it still goes in-just hard __________________