Shno's House of Z

[OldScoolCamaro]

...ok 90503.....whatever....

[*007]

Originally Posted by blufin

I'm not really focused on the ZL1. I was just commenting about what someone said earlier that the 3.8 second advantage the Z/28 had over the ZL1 wasn't really worth the extra cost. To some, it is.

I guess during a longer run, like the 25 or 50 lap race I mentioned, that 3.8 second advantage will grow as the ZL1 brakes begin to fade and the car begins to heatsoak. That 3.8 second advantage could grow exponentially.

Oh for sure longer the race the more each factor comes in to play. What might happen if one changed the stock brake pads out? Any improvement? (Pete'?) Depending on those 25 laps and how many long straightaways they have could also play into it...re heat soak I hear the z28 really runs hotter than the zl1 ... Not sure why but it was recently stated. Maybe al said it... Don't remember. Cost.... Issue sure will be interesting to see what this costs with any creature comforts. Wonder how many will NOT add a/c too. Those who do will likely add radio etc. Will 50% be purchased with optional equipment ? And if so will they track them ? This next summer will prove interesting. Especially to see what the 2015 model will bring. The likely cost premium in total will likely be quite limiting.

[tramtwo]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

...ok 90503.....whatever....

:bahahaha:

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[Mikamaro]

I think Paul Huizenga from LSXTV sums the Z/28's performance pretty well:

-''Chevy has hit the mark with the Z/28, though it might not be the mark your average Camaro fan would have aimed for in the first place. Some will say it goes too far, while others will say it doesn’t go too far enough. We think that Chevy has split the difference neatly, with a Camaro that isn’t so hardcore that it will revolutionize the way rich guys run out of talent, but will still provide a level of performance so high that most owners will really have to step up to reach it.

[tramtwo]

At this point it would make my year just to get a ride along. I have had dreams of Chevy bringing several to the fest in may for the ride 'n drive experience.

[*007]

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

I think Paul Huizenga from LSXTV sums the Z/28's performance pretty well:

-''Chevy has hit the mark with the Z/28, though it might not be the mark your average Camaro fan would have aimed for in the first place. Some will say it goes too far, while others will say it doesn’t go too far enough. We think that Chevy has split the difference neatly, with a Camaro that isn’t so hardcore that it will revolutionize the way rich guys run out of talent, but will still provide a level of performance so high that most owners will really have to step up to reach it.

Yep... a "reach" to about the current Z06 price! True that!

[Mikamaro]

Originally Posted by *007

Yep... a "reach" to about the current Z06 price! True that!

It cant be that close to the Z06 pricing otherwise it makes no sense. Its going to be right in the middle between the $55k ZL1 and the $75k Z06.
$65k base price with options at $70k.

[*007]

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

It cant be that close to the Z06 pricing otherwise it makes no sense. Its going to be right in the middle between the $55k ZL1 and the $75k Z06.
$65k base price with options at $70k.

Certainly! Totally Agree. I am just saying that the $70k is much closer to Z06 territory than the $58K loaded (non vert) ZL1. And don't forget there are dealers out there who significantly discount the Z06 down to $70K. Look at these examples http://www.citychevrolet.com/chevrolet-corvette/

[Mikamaro]

Right....we will see in January!

[JusticePete]

The Z/28 is nice. Then there is the Lingenfelter Pedders L/28 dressed up, ready for SEMA and the OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Invitational (OUSCI).



Everyone should have a Big Brother to look up too

[Mikamaro]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

The Z/28 is nice. Then there is the Lingenfelter Pedders L/28 dressed up, ready for SEMA and the OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Invitational (OUSCI).



Everyone should have a Big Brother to look up too

What's the Hood?

[2cnd chance]

Very cool! I'd love to see this and the Z/28 tested together.

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Mikamaro

What's the Hood?

A Lingenfelter built LS7 that puts down over 600 RWHP

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Very cool! I'd love to see this and the Z/28 tested together.

It will never happen. The Z/28 has 450 RWHP max. We are over 600 RWHP. Everything is over-built on the L/28 from the engine to the rear wheels. Even the Pedders suspension has been tweaked. one example is the custom lower rear inner control arm bushing replacement that uses banded thrust bearings.

The Z/28 aero is better. The Z/28 CC brakes should be better, but our Brembo setup with special pads should be good enough to hang in with them.

The Z/28 is a momentum car on track. The L/28, IMHO, will out handle the Z/28. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. Even if the handling were even, the L/28 would pull it on the straights more like a ZR1 than a Zl1. Let's call the Z/28 an 8 for handling and a 7 for acceleration compared to the best-of-the-best Pro-Touring cars. We run with the best-of-the-best from the Pro-Touring circuit so we'll call it a 9 and a 9. Why a 9, nothing is perfect.

Pedders has a bi-polar relationship with GM. We help GM sell Camaros. We make Camaro news for GM and show the product to be incredibly capable. I also understand how some on the Camaro Engineering TEAM feel when we replace parts they have invested so much of themselves into. My post today is some what offensive to some. It shouldn't be. I cannot see GM releasing a 700 FHP normally aspirated engine with a full Chevrolet warranty at this time with current technology. They are not going to release a Camaro with a Quartermaster clutch. If you haven't driven a big cam high revving LS7 with an on off switch for a clutch, it isn't exactly a street car for most people. Some of us love it. Most would not tolerate it. The Z/28 is a production track and street star. The L/28 is a custom track star and street car for a select few.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

The Z/28 is nice. Then there is the Lingenfelter Pedders L/28 dressed up, ready for SEMA and the OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Invitational (OUSCI).



Everyone should have a Big Brother to look up too

Sweet. Is that a wrap with RJT underneath or is it repainted?