Mustang beats Corvette! (Car and Driver Magazine)

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

You guys just need to chill.

Guess how many GT500 owners sold their GT500s when the ZL1 won comparisons despite losing most performance comparisons.

I'd imagine the same number of people are going to rush to sell their Vettes.

I don't stop liking The Atlanta Braves when they have a down year, you guys don't start hating Coors Light when you realized its just flavored water.

It's human nature to justify tour purchase, or get all up in arms when a goddamn magazine picks a different car.

Guess what, my wife isn't a super model who makes millions, but I still want to do all kinds of things to her 99% of the time I see her.

****ing kids

(The kids comment was directed toward this forum..not saying kids destroyed my wife... oh jesus... that sounded bad)

Chill?

CHILL?!

It's like you don't even understand.

How can one be expected to enjoy a car, when a person you've never met, writes a review you don't agree with, in a magazine you don't even read, about a test done at a track you'll probably never go to?

HOW?!

You can't expect someone to simply enjoy what they've bought with their own hard earned without praise from the masses and/or mass media. That's crazy talk.

Go home it's 3am, you're drunk. Or I am, whatever...someone needs to go home.

[72MachOne99GT]

I believe you.

[Agarc]

i think this now needs this

[CapeCruisin]

Originally Posted by trademaster

You had a copy of the February C&D in December? That's weird.

I found it in Stop and Shop (a supermarket chain here in New England)

[CapeCruisin]

Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

You guys just need to chill.

Guess how many GT500 owners sold their GT500s when the ZL1 won comparisons despite losing most performance comparisons.

I'd imagine the same number of people are going to rush to sell their Vettes.

I don't stop liking The Atlanta Braves when they have a down year, you guys don't start hating Coors Light when you realized its just flavored water.

It's human nature to justify tour purchase, or get all up in arms when a goddamn magazine picks a different car.

Guess what, my wife isn't a super model who makes millions, but I still want to do all kinds of things to her 99% of the time I see her.

****ing kids

(The kids comment was directed toward this forum..not saying kids destroyed my wife... oh jesus... that sounded bad)

Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Chill?

CHILL?!

It's like you don't even understand.

How can one be expected to enjoy a car, when a person you've never met, writes a review you don't agree with, in a magazine you don't even read, about a test done at a track you'll probably never go to?

HOW?!

You can't expect someone to simply enjoy what they've bought with their own hard earned without praise from the masses and/or mass media. That's crazy talk.

Go home it's 3am, you're drunk. Or I am, whatever...someone needs to go home.

Originally Posted by Agarc

i think this now needs this

The Mustang crowd on this forum is a lot more humorous than the Camaro crowd, lol.

[LT1Zob]

Originally Posted by CapeCruisin

The Mustang crowd on this forum is a lot more humorous than the Camaro crowd, lol.

I know, these guys are whitty. With the gen 6 looking the way it does, I might even consider buying a 350gt and joining these guys

[Bosse'sBoss]

I think from what I have read:
Shelby GT350R faster laps than Z28
I guess the 6th. gen Camaro SS might be faster or = to GT350
Upcoming 6th. gen 1LE will beat the GT350 and maybe close to the GT350R
Upcoming Z28 or ZL1 should beat GT350R
Corvette Stingray Z51 beats GT350
Shelby GT500 with improved brakes ventilation would beat ZL1
Z06 beats GT350R
Viper ACR beats all above
ZORA Corvette VS Ford GT VS Viper ACR ?

C&D comparing GT350 Recaros VS Stingray's regular seats wasn't fair, they should have compared them with Corvette's competition seats.
C&D was not fair with the results. In reallity the Stingray Z51 won.
They did it to sell more magazines.

[Denis]

I got this issue a few weeks back when it came in the mail. I saw the cover and was like "oh wow, damn that Mustang must be fast" I immediately flipped to the back of the article to see all of the metrics and then said "wait....what? So it didn't beat the Vette...ok got ya" and then put the magazine down to never be read again. Cars don't beat other cars on what you feel...Cars beat other cars by quantifiable data. Why even test them then if its not going to matter? Just take each down the road and back and just make a call based on how fun that was to do.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by trademaster

You had a copy of the February C&D in December? That's weird.

Here is the March edition in January.

[MauriSSio28]

If all that mattered really was the quantifiable performance specs, we would all be driving v8 powered tube chassis go carts with race slicks to work. The GT350R won because it really is a more fun car to drive than the vette. I've driven both and the gt350 really is something else.

[Bosse'sBoss]

It wasn't the R, it was just the GT350 with track package.
I agree that the GT350R is a great car but not the regular GT350, their performance is very different.

[MauriSSio28]

Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

It wasn't the R, it was just the GT350 with track package.
I agree that the GT350R is a great car but not the regular GT350, their performance is very different.

I've driven the gt350 and the vette. The gt350 really is a much nicer car to drive, and a much better engine. Corvette looks nice for now but i think it's styling isn't very timeless and will grow long in the tooth soon. Much like c4, c5, c6 vettes before them.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by Denis

I got this issue a few weeks back when it came in the mail. I saw the cover and was like "oh wow, damn that Mustang must be fast" I immediately flipped to the back of the article to see all of the metrics and then said "wait....what? So it didn't beat the Vette...ok got ya" and then put the magazine down to never be read again. Cars don't beat other cars on what you feel...Cars beat other cars by quantifiable data. Why even test them then if its not going to matter? Just take each down the road and back and just make a call based on how fun that was to do.

Now you know how fans of the 2013 GT500 felt

As I said before, all the mags did this before, only that time the ZL1 was chosen...and everyone was okay with it because it was the Camaro that won. Read back on the GT500 mega-thread, if the mods haven't destroyed it. People were saying "it's more than just about raw performance" and such..

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Question for you folks....

Is Car and Driver only a legitimate magazine when GM products win? I don't seem to recall anyone balking at the magazine when the 6th Gen dominated the Mustang...

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Now you know how fans of the 2013 GT500 felt

As I said before, all the mags did this before, only that time the ZL1 was chosen...and everyone was okay with it because it was the Camaro that won. Read back on the GT500 mega-thread, if the mods haven't destroyed it. People were saying "it's more than just about raw performance" and such..

Or how the Hellcat was picked over the ZL1 for no reason other than "it has 707hp", or the Merc was picked over the ATS-V because the guy "liked the trans better (but he couldn't name a complaint on the A8 other than it wasn't a DCT)" even though it was slower in acceleration and around the track than the ATS-V. What this should tell you is make your own decision since they make decisions arbitrarily.