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Old 06-11-2014, 02:19 PM   #57
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Plus it's only available in a manual trans. A lot of people can't grasp the concept of a clutch.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:27 PM   #58
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Plus it's only available in a manual trans. A lot of people can't grasp the concept of a clutch.
+1. When I sold my 4sp '69 Shelby GT500 in 2006, I thought that would be the last 3-pedal for me. Just not worth it. But this car caused me to reevaluate.
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Old 06-11-2014, 04:49 PM   #59
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One of my local dealers has VIN #44 White Z/28 w/AC at MSRP.

It is a VERY busy dealership, Mark Christopher in Ontario, California.

They have a rare Gray one (AC), #195 that is in transit for MSRP also.

Mark Christopher moves huge amounts of cars, and has an inventory of 40 new 2014 Camaros. Sold out of ZL1's and have 1 1LE currently.

But haven't moved #44 Z/28 at MSRP?


They have only 3 Vettes, all optioned way up at MSRP, all automatics. $72k, $71k, $68k, or in the price area of the Z/28 or Z06. All black/dark gray (bright colors sell Vettes). Not good sellers of the Vette lineup. Max price, yet not flashy, and no discount.

They might not make as many 2015 Z/28's as people are hoping.
Black/white/red are the top sellers on Stingrays. From what I've seen here, color isn't a big deal on Stingray(as long as it's not Lime Rock Green) because it's going to sell rather quickly just because the Stingray is in high demand.

The Z/28 is a niche vehicle that is very expensive. We're going to see them sell well below MSRP very soon.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:03 PM   #60
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The Z/28 is a niche vehicle that is very expensive. We're going to see them sell well below MSRP very soon.
Hope so because I would love to own one...
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:18 PM   #61
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They already are selling below msrp. May deliveries received $2k in incentives.
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:20 PM   #62
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The Z/28 is a niche vehicle that is very expensive. We're going to see them sell well below MSRP very soon.

I am betting in 2015 they will drop like rocks in price. With all new models and such a niche car would seem even MSRP may be too high.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:00 PM   #63
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I am betting in 2015 they will drop like rocks in price. With all new models and such a niche car would seem even MSRP may be too high.
Those interested in a 2015 Z/28 should wait. Why?

Since the 2015 Z/28 production side of the equation will not be limited by a late start in model year production (as was the 2014 Z/28,) the factory will produce to the +1 side of actual demand in 2015. A +1 production to demand ratio translates to lower pricing for 2015 Z/28's buyers. Ferrari deliberately produces to the -1 side of demand, but they are Ferrari and operate under a different business model than Chevrolet. All of this highlights the higher intrinsic future value of the 2014 Z/28's, but the better purchase value of the 2015 Z/28's.
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They already are selling below msrp. May deliveries received $2k in incentives.
They'll be selling below msrp before incentives.

I'm also going out on a limb and stating that this car will be lower volume than they originally estimated.
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When I was at the last autox I parked next to a new z28 for a picture. A couple drivers came by and started looking the cars over. Over all they came to the realization that it is a great car but not twice the car as the 1le as the price tag would indicate.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:28 PM   #66
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I'm not sure you see prices fall like a rock. There's a lot of tech in this car, just not a large market of trackers. I'm not sure why you'd buy a car with no noise canceling, no a/c (in some cases) and a stiff ride unless you use it to its potential.

I also don't necessarily think it's overpriced. I think GM has already sold enough models that they're ok with the results.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:35 PM   #67
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Quite a few actually.
What car is a better track performer than the Z/28?
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:47 PM   #68
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This car is not the car for someone who needs to wait till it can be had for a couple of grand below msrp. Track rats know what I'm talking about.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:53 PM   #69
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Let's get honest, these are toys. The Z/28 comes with batteries, and the 1LE is "batteries not included".

Just kidding of course, the reason I'm a Z/28 buyer is because I can afford it. Simple as that.

BUT...

Mark Christopher blew my whole theory to hell by not selling at their advertised internet price.

If lots of dealers are pulling the same game, then that explains why there are even low SN ones available. A lot of people (me included) don't pay over MSRP, ever. Not for a toy, even if it does come with batteries.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:25 PM   #70
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Beautiful car

I know you are still upset at them (Mark Christopher) and understand why. I went there for an oil change today and saw the white Z/28. It has A/C and radio. I did the walk-around of the car before sitting in it and starting it up. Nice rumble, it definitely has a different tone to it compared to my ZL1. Told them what to do with the "markup". Gave me a line about having to talk to the GM. 10 mins later he returned and said the GM would sell it for MSRP. I am so tempted but still have my ZL1 with Pedders suspension. It's all your fault Mc Rat for mentioning they had one!
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