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Snoman · 09-13-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mark_p

Amd for you moderators. I am no troll from the vette forum. I own both a 2010 camaro with an lsx 454 swap and a 2016 corvette. I have also been a camaro5 member since 2009...

Whatever, still doesn't justify slandering him and the shop with absolutely no facts or publicly verifiable information available. If you have an attorney, I know for a fact he told you not to discuss the case. There are quite a few legitimate business scenarios (albeit abnormal) I can think of that will easily produce the same results that customers are going through.

Savewave (ADMIN @ Corvette forums) has made it crystal clear they are compiling a list of affected parties for communication and possible class action. Further rumors should be directed to your own attorney or Savewave.

mark_p · 09-13-2016, 01:33 PM

Negative..all information should be discussed in open forum. Thats how he ripped off so many people before it came to the surface. Personally I could care less about the money..at least for my part. Im more interested in seeing charges filed. And there is NO business scenario that results in you taking peoples money and blatently lying about about buying their parts,sending refunds , etc..NO busness scenario at all..

mark_p · 09-13-2016, 01:37 PM

And i have plenty of facts by the way. I can start posting them if I need to. Not just from myself either. From others as well..enough to get him three hots and a cot Im sure..

1KillerSS · 09-13-2016, 01:56 PM

Mark, I understand your passionate about this. Hell, I am too, but the reality is that, the chances of anything being done to him criminally is pretty slim. I think that's what snoman is trying to say, as obvious as it is, what has happened to everybody's cash.....The truth is, a good attorney can explain it away to paying bills and payroll, yadda yadda yadda. If the business is failing on the books, and its documented, then you need to do a hell of a lot more to get someone brought up on fraud charges, something other than taking someones money for parts, and not ordering them.

Hard Parker · 09-13-2016, 02:20 PM

What about the people who ordered parts through FSP.....and FSP stated they were ordered and at the shop and when the time comes nothing has been ordered

Instead they got "talk to my lawyer and pick up your incomplete car that won't start under its own power"

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Snoman · 09-13-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mark_p

And i have plenty of facts by the way. I can start posting them if I need to. Not just from myself either. From others as well..enough to get him three hots and a cot Im sure..

heh, don't have to justify them to me. Will be a court summons, under a Defamation suit but by all means, continue blasting publicly.

1KillerSS · 09-13-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom SS

What about the people who ordered parts through FSP.....and FSP stated they were ordered and at the shop and when the time comes nothing has been ordered

Instead they got "talk to my lawyer and pick up your incomplete car that won't start under its own power"

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I don't want my position to be confused here, I don't condone, what he did, nor am I making excuses for it. Frankly I am, as disgusted, as anybody. All I am trying to say, is that as for criminal charges.....well good luck with that.

mark_p · 09-13-2016, 08:24 PM

Defamation of what, character.. I would assume you need some character first. This man clearly jas none to speak of. Why dont he sell some of those assetts to pay the people he robbed instead of shipping them off somewhere to hide. Now that would be character..

Pro Stock John · 09-13-2016, 08:30 PM

wow

mark_p · 09-13-2016, 08:31 PM

Or how about this..give your customers that you can't pay the refunds to because your broke a call ans say" sorry man I hit a hard spot. I'll pay you what i can now and get you the rest as soon as i can". It was our money for goodness sake.

WVracer · 09-13-2016, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mark_p

Or how about this..give your customers that you can't pay the refunds to because your broke a call ans say" sorry man I hit a hard spot. I'll pay you what i can now and get you the rest as soon as i can". It was our money for goodness sake.

I understand you lost money and that pisses you off, I would be! But we dont know the full story, Im sure FSP didnt screw all these people over intentionally. Why would they throw away one of the best reputations in the business just for personal gain. Im sure a dramatic event caused such a thing. If you want you could take your vehicle to Hennessey, they will just strip your car for parts to sell and Hennessey isnt even going bankrupt. Im just saying that maybe we should ease up until the full story is told.

schpenxel · 09-13-2016, 09:35 PM

Some people are out a lot of money regardless.

DarkCry956 · 09-14-2016, 06:18 AM

After a burned 6l80, burned 4l80 and a blown motor I'm glad I didn't stay longer to keep getting screwed

McBeevee · 09-14-2016, 06:44 AM

I'm fairly certain they were a paid vendor on here at one time.

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09-13-2016, 01:33 PM	#72
mark_p Drives: 2010 2SSRS m6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis ntn Posts: 225	Negative..all information should be discussed in open forum. Thats how he ripped off so many people before it came to the surface. Personally I could care less about the money..at least for my part. Im more interested in seeing charges filed. And there is NO business scenario that results in you taking peoples money and blatently lying about about buying their parts,sending refunds , etc..NO busness scenario at all..

09-13-2016, 01:37 PM	#73
mark_p Drives: 2010 2SSRS m6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis ntn Posts: 225	And i have plenty of facts by the way. I can start posting them if I need to. Not just from myself either. From others as well..enough to get him three hots and a cot Im sure..

09-13-2016, 08:24 PM	#78
mark_p Drives: 2010 2SSRS m6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis ntn Posts: 225	Defamation of what, character.. I would assume you need some character first. This man clearly jas none to speak of. Why dont he sell some of those assetts to pay the people he robbed instead of shipping them off somewhere to hide. Now that would be character..

09-13-2016, 08:31 PM	#80
mark_p Drives: 2010 2SSRS m6 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis ntn Posts: 225	Or how about this..give your customers that you can't pay the refunds to because your broke a call ans say" sorry man I hit a hard spot. I'll pay you what i can now and get you the rest as soon as i can". It was our money for goodness sake.

09-14-2016, 06:18 AM	#83
DarkCry956 Drives: 2011 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas RGV Posts: 794	After a burned 6l80, burned 4l80 and a blown motor I'm glad I didn't stay longer to keep getting screwed