09-15-2017, 06:04 PM | #1 |
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SS2 Camshaft and Lope
Hey all. I have GPI SS2 cam.
Is it possible to custom grind a cam and keep power and torque like GPI SS2 VVT but with completely stock idle and stock like quiet. Sort of sleepers cam. I love SS2 cam but want to keep same as stock idle and quiet. No lope at all. Loud while driving is no issue at all. I have upgraded all nessecary parts for L99 VVT cam. Just i will swap cam to custom grind SS2 VVT. Any possibility
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09-15-2017, 06:33 PM | #2 |
in a word...no! Those lobes are what make the power. You could try quieter mufflers,
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09-15-2017, 07:00 PM | #3 |
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Call Ryan at GPI or send a PM and ask him. He would know best on what you can do with a custom grind. His forum name is rhino79
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09-15-2017, 08:07 PM | #4 |
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That is the unfortunate part of a pushrod engine. You are limited by a single set of cam lobes. You will not get big power without having that lope. Only dohc engines have the ability to tighten and open LSA, which helps a lot with controlling lope. There are grinds that are very mild, like the LS9 cam etc, but they don't make nearly enough power to be considered worth the hassle imo.
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09-16-2017, 08:25 AM | #5 |
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You will also find almost all aftermarket cams also require a higher idle which does counter some of the lope sound but with our lift...And why ???? Why kill the lope that is loved world around to try to make a sleeper so bad when you can kill most the sound with the exhaust.
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09-16-2017, 08:43 AM | #6 |
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"Kill the Lope" Seems as crazy as a lot of the other things going on around me lately. Love the Lope...
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09-16-2017, 08:58 AM | #7 |
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After reading many of your post....my best advice is to just go back to stock. I hate to quote old cliche....but you cant have your cake and eat it too.
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09-16-2017, 04:05 PM | #8 |
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Dont want to go back to stock. As power is amazing. Car pulls like crazy till 7000 rpm.
Ok one more thing. Drilling a hole 1/8 inch into throttle body will cure the cam shake inside the car. As it will get more air at idle? I have one extra throttle body with me. Should I try?
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09-16-2017, 09:23 PM | #9 | |
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09-16-2017, 10:42 PM | #10 |
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What this guy above me said.
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09-17-2017, 01:54 AM | #11 |
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Go back to stock exhaust other than the longtubes. :P
Do you have a stall? I don't see that in your mod-list...
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09-17-2017, 05:30 AM | #12 |
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Hahah noo tuner is best. RYAN himself tuned it. Car runs perfect. Other than cam shake.
No I dont have stall converter. It is on stock converter. Car only bucks while decelerating and dipping under 1200 RPM. Slow speeds are good as well. I am on stock exhaust with cutouts. Sound is almost good now. Will upload a clip. Butttt cam shake . Shakes my b.......
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09-17-2017, 07:56 AM | #13 |
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I would suggest a higher idle and no drilling a hole ......STUPID ...great way to ruin a TB.
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