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ATXCamaroKid · 03-30-2010, 02:39 PM

For people who dont know dealership terms here they are and hope this helps better understand what it means to get car above msrp or under msrp

MSRP: Manufacture Suggested Retail Price- What the manufacture suggest the dealer prices the car at fair value and still make profit off the car and still brings enough money to pay labor and salesman

Sticker: Sticker price is what the dealer actually list the car for normally is what is considered "mark-up"

Invoice: This is what the dealership will never tell a customer. Invoice is what they buy the vehicle for from the manufacturer. And never will a dealership under an circumstance go below 700 above invoice. No matter if your dad is the General Manager of the dealership.

So what they are referring to is when the say they go below 2k msrp they are actually going 2k below sticker. MSRP is a word they will tell csx in think they are cutting you a deal when actaully they still will be making 2-3k off you.

As far as camaro's the invoice for a 2lt RS is 28.5 and they will list it for 32k "sticker" and the msrp is 31-32k. So with my connection I can get the car at 700 above invoice which will come out to 29,495 + TT&L. Thats with the GMSD discount. (General Motors Supplier Discount)

*The_Blur* · 03-30-2010, 03:23 PM

Actually, you're forgetting holdback. Invoice has a small built-in profit. Holdback does not.

Zeroto60 · 03-30-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXCamaroKid

For people who dont know dealership terms here they are and hope this helps better understand what it means to get car above msrp or under msrp

MSRP: Manufacture Suggested Retail Price- What the manufacture suggest the dealer prices the car at fair value and still make profit off the car and still brings enough money to pay labor and salesman

Sticker: Sticker price is what the dealer actually list the car for normally is what is considered "mark-up"

Invoice: This is what the dealership will never tell a customer. Invoice is what they buy the vehicle for from the manufacturer. And never will a dealership under an circumstance go below 700 above invoice. No matter if your dad is the General Manager of the dealership.

So what they are referring to is when the say they go below 2k msrp they are actually going 2k below sticker. MSRP is a word they will tell csx in think they are cutting you a deal when actaully they still will be making 2-3k off you.

As far as camaro's the invoice for a 2lt RS is 28.5 and they will list it for 32k "sticker" and the msrp is 31-32k. So with my connection I can get the car at 700 above invoice which will come out to 29,495 + TT&L. Thats with the GMSD discount. (General Motors Supplier Discount)

You want to see the invoice on a car? just ask. here's one that was sent via email when I was shopping Earlier in the month. I was sent several. also edmunds will also give vehicle invoice prices, but they don't have dealer installed items on their list.

FWIW, after GMS Pricing discount and the $1000.00 Pontiac loyalty money, my 2ss was $2133.00 under the MSRP/Sticker, which is also under invoice price. got my '06 GTO for under invoice as well.

clg_98ta · 03-30-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXCamaroKid

So what they are referring to is when the say they go below 2k msrp they are actually going 2k below sticker.

I believe that virtually everyone here understands what MSRP is. Most of us build a car on the Chevrolet website to determine MSRP, or go to Edmunds.com to determine MSRP and Invoice. And plenty of people, including myself, got $2000+ off MSRP. In fact anyone who used preferred pricing plus the Pontiac/Saturn $1000 incentive on a 2SS/RS saved more than
$2K.

CamaroScotty · 03-30-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXCamaroKid

Invoice: This is what the dealership will never tell a customer. Invoice is what they buy the vehicle for from the manufacturer. And never will a dealership under an circumstance go below 700 above invoice. No matter if your dad is the General Manager of the dealership.

?

RPO_Z28 · 03-30-2010, 04:55 PM

Genius! Thanks for the info.

2SS · 03-30-2010, 05:32 PM

I ordered my 2SS for $269 over invoice.

JCL-2SS · 03-30-2010, 05:46 PM

Hey Camaro Scotty, since you are a dealer can you enlighten us all with something as close to the truth as possible? my 2SS MSRP'ed for 38,800 and got it for 36,900 with the supplier discount program (my company and GM have relationship, we sell them high end computer equipment for their data centers)

thedonkeyslayer · 03-30-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXCamaroKid

And never will a dealership under an circumstance go below 700 above invoice.

Not true

*The_Blur* · 03-30-2010, 07:03 PM

At the very least, this is pretty entertaining.

81z28355 · 03-30-2010, 07:34 PM

Funny , I have purchase 5 new cars and have never payed more than dealer Invoice. The first 4 with my GM card earnings 3500 under invoice.

Mark Myles · 03-30-2010, 07:45 PM

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CamaroScotty · 03-31-2010, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JCL-2SS

Hey Camaro Scotty, since you are a dealer can you enlighten us all with something as close to the truth as possible? my 2SS MSRP'ed for 38,800 and got it for 36,900 with the supplier discount program (my company and GM have relationship, we sell them high end computer equipment for their data centers)

depends when you bought it....it may have been GMS before 1/5??

Ronn · 03-31-2010, 07:52 AM

wonder where this one is going??

03-30-2010, 02:39 PM	#1
ATXCamaroKid Drives: 2010 2LT RS Cyber Grey Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 31	How Dealerships work! Insider Info For people who dont know dealership terms here they are and hope this helps better understand what it means to get car above msrp or under msrp MSRP: Manufacture Suggested Retail Price- What the manufacture suggest the dealer prices the car at fair value and still make profit off the car and still brings enough money to pay labor and salesman Sticker: Sticker price is what the dealer actually list the car for normally is what is considered "mark-up" Invoice: This is what the dealership will never tell a customer. Invoice is what they buy the vehicle for from the manufacturer. And never will a dealership under an circumstance go below 700 above invoice. No matter if your dad is the General Manager of the dealership. So what they are referring to is when the say they go below 2k msrp they are actually going 2k below sticker. MSRP is a word they will tell csx in think they are cutting you a deal when actaully they still will be making 2-3k off you. As far as camaro's the invoice for a 2lt RS is 28.5 and they will list it for 32k "sticker" and the msrp is 31-32k. So with my connection I can get the car at 700 above invoice which will come out to 29,495 + TT&L. Thats with the GMSD discount. (General Motors Supplier Discount)

03-30-2010, 03:23 PM	#2
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	Actually, you're forgetting holdback. Invoice has a small built-in profit. Holdback does not. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

03-30-2010, 04:55 PM	#6
RPO_Z28 Drives: 2007 C6Z Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: RVC, New York Posts: 1,748	Genius! Thanks for the info. __________________ Last edited by RPO_Z28; 03-31-2010 at 08:42 AM.

03-30-2010, 05:46 PM	#8
JCL-2SS Drives: 2010 2SS Imperial Blue Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lindenhurst, NY Posts: 216	Hey Camaro Scotty, since you are a dealer can you enlighten us all with something as close to the truth as possible? my 2SS MSRP'ed for 38,800 and got it for 36,900 with the supplier discount program (my company and GM have relationship, we sell them high end computer equipment for their data centers) __________________ 2010 2SS IBM L99 6A, Janetty Tune, Dynatech headers and cats, Flowmaster exaust, SLP underdive pulley, CAI inc. CAI, MSD wires, LED's -taillights, side markers, knight rider, interior, Chevy emblem, rear plate

03-30-2010, 07:03 PM	#10
The_Blur Moderator Drives: 2018 Harley-Davidson Street Bob Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 14,769	At the very least, this is pretty entertaining. __________________ RDP Motorsport//GEN5DIY//Cultrag Performance//JPSS//Rodgets Chevrolet// Operation Demon//Buy at Invoice//RACECARWEAR RESPECT ALL CARS. LOVE YOUR OWN. warn 145:159 ban

03-30-2010, 05:32 PM	#7
2SS LS3,GBA,AFM,VZP,VYX,CF5 Drives: Ordered 3/1/10 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 93	I ordered my 2SS for $269 over invoice.

03-30-2010, 07:34 PM	#11
81z28355 Drives: 81 Z28 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 90	Funny , I have purchase 5 new cars and have never payed more than dealer Invoice. The first 4 with my GM card earnings 3500 under invoice.

03-30-2010, 07:45 PM	#12
Mark Myles Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IBM / Silver Stripes Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northeast Michigan Posts: 601	M

03-31-2010, 07:52 AM	#14
Ronn Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Ontario Posts: 1,181	wonder where this one is going?? __________________ 1SS / RS / M6 / IOM / Black rally stripes / Polished wheels It's a high school prom, it's a Springsteen song, it's a ride in a Chevrolet...

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