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Old 04-16-2014, 03:22 PM   #141
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Ok so I've cut my door to swap pumps. Can I buy a ZL1 pump and drop it in or do I need the other goodies?
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:33 PM   #142
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Ok so I've cut my door to swap pumps. Can I buy a ZL1 pump and drop it in or do I need the other goodies?
Should be a direct replacement as far as the pump goes, but in order to command the ramp up for the extra fuel pressure, you need ADM's FPCM and to have it turned on in the tune.
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:34 PM   #143
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Ok so I've cut my door to swap pumps. Can I buy a ZL1 pump and drop it in or do I need the other goodies?
You need a new fpcm. Updated tune, and then your set.
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:37 PM   #144
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Ok.

My pistons just got coated so things will start to ramp up fast. I am putting bigger injectors in as well. So it is going to have to be tuned before I can drive it anyway.

Why the need for a FPCM?

*I'm sure this has been asked but consider it a bump in info, haha*
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Old 04-16-2014, 04:43 PM   #145
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Ok.

My pistons just got coated so things will start to ramp up fast. I am putting bigger injectors in as well. So it is going to have to be tuned before I can drive it anyway.

Why the need for a FPCM?

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The stock fpcm assumes a stock pump so you won't get any advantage. The adm fpcm is a customized zl1 fpcm designed for the zl1 pump. It also allows the BAP to work unlike the stock fpcm.
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Old 04-16-2014, 05:04 PM   #146
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Just dropping in the ZL1 pump gives you a 30% increase in fuel flow at the same voltage. Then you can get another 30% more flow by upping the voltage to the pump.
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Old 04-17-2014, 01:30 PM   #147
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The stock fpcm assumes a stock pump so you won't get any advantage. The adm fpcm is a customized zl1 fpcm designed for the zl1 pump. It also allows the BAP to work unlike the stock fpcm.
So then my current BAP will not work unless I swap FPCMs?

If I understand here, the ZL1 pump will only provide the levels of performance that a stock one will if I use the stock FPCM? Is not a more powerful pump just that, more powerful? Regulating fuel pressure doesn't change from an operational standpoint does it?


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Just dropping in the ZL1 pump gives you a 30% increase in fuel flow at the same voltage. Then you can get another 30% more flow by upping the voltage to the pump.
That's without a new control module?
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In order to take advantage of the pump fully you need to replace the FPCM . Its a simple plug and play. Then when your tuned they can make proper provisions. Youve gone this far finish it right!
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So then my current BAP will not work unless I swap FPCMs?

If I understand here, the ZL1 pump will only provide the levels of performance that a stock one will if I use the stock FPCM? Is not a more powerful pump just that, more powerful? Regulating fuel pressure doesn't change from an operational standpoint does it?


That's without a new control module?
MSD BAP works great when hooked up correctly with no need for a new FPCM. If you didn't already have a BAP then the FPCM is a cheaper way to go and it is also a voltage booster.

Just dropping in a ZL1 pump will increase flow ~30% by itself. That is both the increase GMPP claims and what we have tested. Running it to higher voltage is where it shines though.
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:51 PM   #150
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received my zl1 fuel pump yesterday, and ordered the fpcm module today not taking any chance with drop in fuel pressure when get the 2.9 whipple on my ss next month.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:39 PM   #151
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In order to take advantage of the pump fully you need to replace the FPCM . Its a simple plug and play. Then when your tuned they can make proper provisions. Youve gone this far finish it right!
But if I wanted to be able to just drive it to the tuners I can drop the pump in and ease down the road correct? Then get the FPCM?

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MSD BAP works great when hooked up correctly with no need for a new FPCM. If you didn't already have a BAP then the FPCM is a cheaper way to go and it is also a voltage booster.

Just dropping in a ZL1 pump will increase flow ~30% by itself. That is both the increase GMPP claims and what we have tested. Running it to higher voltage is where it shines though.
Ok, so I can use my existing BAP correct?

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received my zl1 fuel pump yesterday, and ordered the fpcm module today not taking any chance with drop in fuel pressure when get the 2.9 whipple on my ss next month.
How much is the FPCM?
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Ok, so I can use my existing BAP correct?

How much is the FPCM?
Yes, your BAP will do great things to a ZL1 pump.

The FPCM is like $200-250 but you already have that covered with your BAP.
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Yes, your BAP will do great things to a ZL1 pump.

The FPCM is like $200-250 but you already have that covered with your BAP.
Oh cool. So drop in and tune.

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Old 05-22-2014, 10:37 AM   #154
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I have a ZL1 pump on the way. If you take those measurements I'd vey much be interested. I'll be cutting mine soon.

I would like the measurements too...
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