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maxdmax · 11-03-2008, 04:57 AM

OK, I just ordered a new 2SS/RS.
Let me start with the 2 items below that truly need to be changed. I am sure we will need to go to the aftermarket for this, but I hope someone is working on it NOW! I am sure you will have others.

#1 My other 2 Chevy's top out at 97 MPH. The speed limiter MUST go all together (just increasing it is not an option)

#2 The traction control needs to default to OFF!

*Milk 1027* · 11-03-2008, 05:04 AM

I think someone had posted that the limiter is set to 150mph.
But removing it shouldn't be difficult as well as the traction control.

*The_Blur* · 11-03-2008, 05:09 AM

Get a tuner for the computer. Those should be easy issues to fix. A lot of people feel the same way as this is a performance car.

For a second there, I was worried this would be a thread about something not being good enough for you with regard the car.

patriotpa · 11-03-2008, 06:01 AM

Nothing MUST be changed. Both of your "musts" can be done with a cheap tuner.

garfin · 11-03-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by maxdmax

OK, I just ordered a new 2SS/RS.
Let me start with the 2 items below that truly need to be changed. I am sure we will need to go to the aftermarket for this, but I hope someone is working on it NOW! I am sure you will have others.

#1 My other 2 Chevy's top out at 97 MPH. The speed limiter MUST go all together (just increasing it is not an option)

#2 The traction control needs to default to OFF!

Scott had mentioned ealier that the base LS would be limited to a speed significantly south of 155 mph, including a reference to tires and speed ratings.
Motor Trend tested an LT/RS with uplevel wheels/tires (Pirelli P Zero as on the SS?) and published that Chevrolet told them that car was limited at 155 mph.

Traction control will never come in the off position from the factory because of the potential for insurance issues...
SLP makes an easy-to-install module for 4th Gens that does reverse the factory default and it's pretty easyto remove the speed limiter/alter shift point etc. with a programmer or the right software.

Best regardSS,

Elie

maxdmax · 11-03-2008, 06:36 AM

Thanks for the responses. I hope there will be a quality tuner out for the Camaro SS soon after we get delivery. I will just need to plan on the tuner as the first aftermarket accessory. As far as I am concerned this would make it the perfect car period!

Chewy · 11-03-2008, 07:11 AM

i don't think u can tune the traction control to default 'off' but i know someone on my other forum that rewired the button/circuitry...i'm not sure if it will work the same on our camaros but i can probably find the DIY if u want it

fbodfather · 11-03-2008, 07:37 AM

A couple of things.........

The speed is limited based on the tire rating put on the car at the factory...it's done as a safety measure. (ever have a blowout at 100? ....trust me, you don't want to experience it.......)

...which begs the question: where are you going to go to drive the car over 150mph??? (and -- next question -- and I don't mean this to be a put-down -- but have you been thru an in-depth defensive/performance driving school.....I say this because many cars can go fast - but we tend to forget that you cannot override the rules of physics........)

As to defaulting the traction control to 'off' -- my question is "why?"
It's there for a reason - and the biggest one I can think of is to protect the driver from accidents. (.....and I should also add -- '...and anyone unfortunate enough to be near said driver when they do something to lose control of their vehicle.........)

*KILLER74Z28* · 11-03-2008, 07:37 AM

You can turn the Traction Control off... Just like in the Vette. Name: smiley_slapacrossroom.gif
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99b4c · 11-03-2008, 08:00 AM

My rear tires like the traction control button to be left alone.

Crowley · 11-03-2008, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

A couple of things.........

The speed is limited based on the tire rating put on the car at the factory...it's done as a safety measure. (ever have a blowout at 100? ....trust me, you don't want to experience it.......)

...which begs the question: where are you going to go to drive the car over 150mph??? (and -- next question -- and I don't mean this to be a put-down -- but have you been thru an in-depth defensive/performance driving school.....I say this because many cars can go fast - but we tend to forget that you cannot override the rules of physics........)

As to defaulting the traction control to 'off' -- my question is "why?"
It's there for a reason - and the biggest one I can think of is to protect the driver from accidents. (.....and I should also add -- '...and anyone unfortunate enough to be near said driver when they do something to lose control of their vehicle.........)

Well said .. my thoughts exactly ..

Crowley

*radz28* · 11-03-2008, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

A couple of things.........

The speed is limited based on the tire rating put on the car at the factory...it's done as a safety measure. (ever have a blowout at 100? ....trust me, you don't want to experience it.......)

...which begs the question: where are you going to go to drive the car over 150mph??? (and -- next question -- and I don't mean this to be a put-down -- but have you been thru an in-depth defensive/performance driving school.....I say this because many cars can go fast - but we tend to forget that you cannot override the rules of physics........)

As to defaulting the traction control to 'off' -- my question is "why?"
It's there for a reason - and the biggest one I can think of is to protect the driver from accidents. (.....and I should also add -- '...and anyone unfortunate enough to be near said driver when they do something to lose control of their vehicle.........)

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Originally Posted by KILLER74Z28

You can turn the Traction Control off... Just like in the Vette. Attachment 10127

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Originally Posted by Crowley

Well said .. my thoughts exactly ..

Crowley

There ya' go. Thanks for not making this another complaint thread

headpunter · 11-03-2008, 09:25 AM

glad your in KY and im in WA so i wont be around the crash that happens when you have the TC off and hit some gravel......

TomServo · 11-03-2008, 10:56 AM

Go visit the Corvette Forum and see how many folks swear by the current version of TC/AH as it's implemented in the vette. I know it saved my butt twice at Road America during HSDE's. And unless you were in over your head it never got in the way, and it was nice knowing it was there should I over drive my skills.

Why any one would want the TC in the OFF mode upon start up is beyond me. In the vette you can turn off the TC and leave the AH on (called Competition Mode) or you can hold the button for 5 seconds and turn off BOTH TC/AH and play hero.

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Chewy My boredom isn't safe Drives: 2010 SS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,224 View My Garage	i don't think u can tune the traction control to default 'off' but i know someone on my other forum that rewired the button/circuitry...i'm not sure if it will work the same on our camaros but i can probably find the DIY if u want it __________________

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11-03-2008, 09:25 AM	#13
headpunter Not That sad..considering Drives: Man Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: the part of washington the capital forgot about. Posts: 3,747 View My Garage	glad your in KY and im in WA so i wont be around the crash that happens when you have the TC off and hit some gravel...... __________________ Stop Whinging

11-03-2008, 04:57 AM	#1
maxdmax Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: East KY Posts: 756 View My Garage	New Camaro - Speed Limiter and Traction Control OK, I just ordered a new 2SS/RS. Let me start with the 2 items below that truly need to be changed. I am sure we will need to go to the aftermarket for this, but I hope someone is working on it NOW! I am sure you will have others. #1 My other 2 Chevy's top out at 97 MPH. The speed limiter MUST go all together (just increasing it is not an option) #2 The traction control needs to default to OFF!

11-03-2008, 05:04 AM	#2
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	I think someone had posted that the limiter is set to 150mph. But removing it shouldn't be difficult as well as the traction control. __________________

11-03-2008, 06:01 AM	#4
patriotpa Account Suspended Drives: 02 Silverado, 09 Vue, 10 1SS Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tired of apologizing when we should be kickin' butt! Posts: 1,966 View My Garage	Nothing MUST be changed. Both of your "musts" can be done with a cheap tuner.

11-03-2008, 06:36 AM	#6
maxdmax Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: East KY Posts: 756 View My Garage	Thanks for the responses. I hope there will be a quality tuner out for the Camaro SS soon after we get delivery. I will just need to plan on the tuner as the first aftermarket accessory. As far as I am concerned this would make it the perfect car period!

11-03-2008, 07:37 AM	#8
fbodfather Drives: Camaros................ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seven Fields, PA (Pittsburgh) Posts: 4,523	A couple of things......... The speed is limited based on the tire rating put on the car at the factory...it's done as a safety measure. (ever have a blowout at 100? ....trust me, you don't want to experience it.......) ...which begs the question: where are you going to go to drive the car over 150mph??? (and -- next question -- and I don't mean this to be a put-down -- but have you been thru an in-depth defensive/performance driving school.....I say this because many cars can go fast - but we tend to forget that you cannot override the rules of physics........) As to defaulting the traction control to 'off' -- my question is "why?" It's there for a reason - and the biggest one I can think of is to protect the driver from accidents. (.....and I should also add -- '...and anyone unfortunate enough to be near said driver when they do something to lose control of their vehicle.........)

11-03-2008, 08:00 AM	#10
99b4c Drives: 89 RS/99 GTP/1SS soon Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago/Phoenix Posts: 238	My rear tires like the traction control button to be left alone.

11-03-2008, 10:56 AM	#14
TomServo Drives: 2007 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Swansea IL Posts: 727	Go visit the Corvette Forum and see how many folks swear by the current version of TC/AH as it's implemented in the vette. I know it saved my butt twice at Road America during HSDE's. And unless you were in over your head it never got in the way, and it was nice knowing it was there should I over drive my skills. Why any one would want the TC in the OFF mode upon start up is beyond me. In the vette you can turn off the TC and leave the AH on (called Competition Mode) or you can hold the button for 5 seconds and turn off BOTH TC/AH and play hero.