V6 Camaro VS V6 & V8 Stangs

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Impact

Most magazines got 12.8. I've even seen 12.6 stock online. Those are about the only Ford car I'd own. Been reading articles where people have put a cold air intake, Exaust, Chip, Pulley and got over 100 more rear wheel horse power. Stock some dyno about 386. I will admit I used to talk trash that it took a supercharger for Ford to have a decent running Mustang but I will also admit then I had no idea it was that quick or that easy to mod. Still doesn't excuse the 1999 Mustang Cobras though haha.

12.4 was what Evan Smith got out of the Cobra in stock form. And that was down right absurd.

And yes they were easy to make power out of. And the 03/04 Cobra motor was stronger internally than even the GT500 motor.

And you are right about the numbers. I went to a few dyno days for 03 Cobras after they came out and in stock form most of them dynoed from 370rwhp-385rwhp. The cars were underrated like hell. And yes I watched many Cobras with a cold air intake and exhaust make 425-440rwhp. And if you just did the bolt-ons you still had factory warranty.

[Impact]

Originally Posted by scrming

Why? I line up against the quick ones... You loose and no big deal... everyone knows you'll loose... but you never know... other guy blows his launch and you beat him... then you get to hear all the excuses and if you get a video of it post it on youtube and watch the fanboys go nuts! LOL!

Your right. I more meant quick ones like 03 Cobras or mach 1's. I'll line up to any GT that wants to race, well expect the new one. I'm glad that I seen this thread today because it finally got me to post. I've been lurking around here for years it seems haha.

[esperman]

Originally Posted by Impact

I've raced alot of Mustangs since I've had my Camaro (My intire town is Mustang town for some reason haha) and I can tell you from my experience what I've beat and what I've been beaten by.

94-10 V6 Mustangs - I've raced a 99-04 Model and beat him pretty bad, at least 6 or 7 car lenth bad. I've raced an 07 Mustang V6 with alot of boltons and I beat him about 3 car lenths.

94-98 Mustang GT - If they are stock, they are no trouble beating. They run 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and 15.00 quarter mile times. I've seen some magazines articles get them to 60 in 6.2 and 14.9 quarter mile but that isn't the norm. I've managed to pull a good 3-4 car lenths on a stock one. I did get out ran by a 94-95 Mustang GT with the 5.0 engine pretty bad but he was modded.

99-04 Mustang GT - These are more tricky. Despite what people above me have said about them. It's more then a drivers race because if both drivers are equaled then the GT should win. Most magazines post their times at 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and quartermile of 14.00 at 100 miles an hour. That is quicker then my Camaro in both areas. The same Magazines gave my Camaro 0-60 in 5.6 and quartermile in 14.5. I have seen lower magazine numbers for the Camaro v6 but I don't believe that is the norm. My car may have 40 more horse power but we lack about 30 pounds of torque then they do and we have about 500 pounds of weight on them also. I have raced three Mustang GT's in this body style and been beaten. They pull about 2 car lenths at around 95-100 and we let out. Now if you catch a 99-04 GT sleeping at the wheel or you are a much better driver then him, then you should win but if both drivers are equaled then it's his race to lose. Bolt on ones I wouldn't mess with either until you get some bolt ons done. If the Mustang GT is automatic then you'll do better. I raced an automatic GT and we were neck and neck up to 100 mile an hour, he barely pulled a couple feet on me, that was from a roll. We raced at a dead stop and he got me 1 car lenth up to 100 and let out. If figure with an intake and exuast, I'll bridge that gap.

2005-2009 Mustang GT - These cars are quick so don't let them having 4 less hp then us trick you. They weigh about 400 pounds less then us and have 325 torque. They do 0-60 in 5.1 and quartermile in 13.6. They will smoke us..

2010 Mustang GT - These cars are basically as fast as a 2005-2009 GT with a little bit more get up.



94-95 Mustang Cobras - If they are stock, you'll walk them. They have 240 hp and 285 torque and hit 60 in 5.9 and quartermile in 14.8. You'll walk them!

96-98 Mustang Cobras - they have 305 hp, same as us but weigh a good 400-500 pounds less and have 300 pounds of torque and hit 0-60 in 5.4 and quartermile time in 14.00. About the same as a 99-04 GT Mustang but they pull harder up top then the GT's do. They'll beat us.

1999-2001 Cobra Mustangs. Those have 320hp and 317 torque. I've seen a quartermile time of 4.8 and quartermile in 13.7 for one of those. Most I have seen run 5.1 and 13.8 in quartermile though. Plus they weigh a good 400 less then we do.

2003-2004 Cobra - Don't mess with them haha. They are underrated at 390 hp (more like 420 hp because they put about 386 to rear wheels on dynos) and have a 0-60 in 4.5 and quartermile in 12.6 Got that number from fast autos and some online sites. The normal times usually are 4.6 and 12.8. They are stock for stock quicker then an 10 SS Camaro, so we stand no chance. With a pulley, Exuast, Intake, chip and tune I've read these suckers can pick up over 100 rear wheel hp.

2003-2004 Mach 1 Mustang - They are underrated and have 304-310 hp but more like 330 and about 320 torque. I've seen 0-60 in 4.7 seconds and quartermile in 13.1. Most run 5.1 seconds 0-60 though. We can't touch this.

2001-2004 Ford Lightning Pick up - I made the mistake of racing one of these, I honestly had no glue that they were that fast. I smoked the hell out of a Harley Davidson Edition F-150 about 5 car lenths and it had a supercharger from the factory so I figured the Lightning was nothing either....I was wrong. He beat me a good 5 car lenths up to 110. That truck was the main reason I started researching Ford vehicles. They have 380 horse power and 450 pounds of torque. 0-60 is 5.1 seconds and 13.7 quartermile times. I've read just with a pulley, exuast, intake, chip and tune they are putting out over 450 horse power to the wheels and over 600 torque.

93-97 Z28 Camaros. I've actually beaten two from a red light up to 50 mile an hour but ended up being beaten a few car lenths. These are a drivers race for a 99-04 Mustang GT with more wins going to the Z28 model. They have 275 hp and 325 torque and do 0-60 in 5.5 and quartermile in 14.00. These suckers will fly and should always take you.

98-2002 LS1 Z28 Camaro - This is my dream car. I've always wanted one but never found a decent one in my area to purchase. They are rated at 305-310 hp. They are UNDERRATED!!! They have around 350 hp to be exact and run 0-60 in 5.1 and quartermile in about 13.1. These cars can run a 2010 SS stock for stock and possible out gun it. These are the cars that blew away the piece of shit Mustangs until Ford brought out the 2003 Cobra. We stand no chance against one of these and it would take bolt on heaven to keep up and I even doubt it then. We'd have to slap on a super charger or Nitrous. I've been man handled by a Trans-Am, which is about the same thing. Had a cousin who had a 2000 Z28 Camaro that used to beat 99-04 Mustang GT's like they were v6 Cars.


Now other cars. Watch out for the new V6 Honda Accords, they are stout and it's a drivers race but they might beat you. They run 14.2 in quarermile.

Toyota Camry, these are quick as well.

Nissan Altima - these might takes us, drivers race.

Anyway Hope this helped. Always know your enemy and smoke those piece of shit FORDS when ever you get the chance but stay away from the quick ones.

good post. thanks for the insights

[bigshack]

Originally Posted by esperman

good post. thanks for the insights

what about acuras? are they faster