May 2012 Camaro Sales and Production Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger) - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

camarofreak · 06-01-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by crateish

I see all kinds of ads for Mustangs on TV, online, and in print. I almost Never see any kind of ads for Camaros or Challengers.

Well the Camaro's are so good they don't need advertising they advertise themselves.

Blue Maro Demon · 06-01-2012, 10:56 AM

How did the Mustang outsell the Camaro this month by that much??? I dont understand it because last month the Camaro outsold the Mustang by like 2,000 units or so. Are the incentives on the 12' Mustangs really that good?

Blue Maro Demon · 06-01-2012, 11:02 AM

I guess Chevrolet needs to put more commercials for the 13' Camaro once it arrives soon. The Camaro needs to continue to outsell the Mustang every month and we need to keep up our yearly sales over the Mustang.

AZCamaroFan · 06-01-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by camarofreak

Well the Camaro's are so good they don't need advertising they advertise themselves.

yeah just like in the 90s

and look how that turned out

BowtieBelle · 06-01-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

yeah just like in the 90s

and look how that turned out

GM needs to advertise.

But this is only the second month out of like the last year where Mustang has outsold Camaro.

Competition is good for everyone. Nobody needs to freak out, LOL.

Thanks for the numbers!

GEN-IV · 06-01-2012, 01:53 PM

Good info, sales are strong even in a struggling economy!

silveradoblue327 · 06-01-2012, 03:21 PM

thanks on the info

brAnd7onX · 06-02-2012, 08:55 AM

I dont know what you guys are talking about. I saw numerous ZL1 commercials when I watched Indy and on other channels. Granted its not to the same extent of the Mustang commercials but its still out there none the less. BTW over 9,000 in sales for the month is GOOD.

Bonanza7 · 06-02-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NoSyT

The 2013 Mustangs have started hitting the dealers...I've seen a few 2013 GTs on the streets here and Killeen, Texas isn't a big market so I am sure there are many more in the bigger markets already.

I still don't like the ass end of Mustangs but the 13's look better than the 11's and 12's at least.

Wait till the '14 Mustang comes out. If Chevy doesn't t make some changes, Ford will eat their lunch

edco · 06-02-2012, 09:20 AM

Mustang sales are a five year phase ahead of Camaro in gen5 rebirth of the muscle car buying. When Camaro began deliveries (Apr 09) S197 mustangs were bought out. That is the field of buyers who wanted one had one. The 09, 10, 11, mustangs were face lifted but not enough to to pull anyone out of a paid up S197. S197 did 160,000 units per year in 05-06. That is a lot of buying in a very complex car market. That forced GM & Dodge back to muscle car production. I have an 07 GT carefully modified to keep me interested, I still can't bear to give it up!

Does a buying cycle apply to Camaro? In year 4, 5, and 6, does the field of Camaro buyers saturate? The 13 Mustang is different enough from the 05 type to generate buying. This is my explanation (can be wrong depending on future sales) of the May 12 results. The 05 S197 boosted total mustang births to over 10 million. Perspective: Mustang sold 1.1 million units in 2 years. Corvette sold 1 million units in 40 years. This website for sales analysis assumes the world was born in June of 2009. May 2009, fifth full year production of S197s, 8812 mustangs were sold. Next May (13) will Camaro sell 8812 units? We will see.

jshaf · 06-02-2012, 09:30 AM

took a two hour drive the other day and only saw one 5th gen, which is not the norm because a week or so earlier I saw six on a 30 minute erron. alot more out there than two years ago

PistonsFan · 06-02-2012, 09:39 AM

'12 Mustang: $2,500 cash incentive
'13 Mustang: $500 cash incentive (right out of the gates)
'12 Camaro: $0 cash incentive

Mustang has been pretty heavy on incentives this year. Ford is trying to keep factory utilization up.

Vintage-Iron · 06-02-2012, 09:49 AM

One of the biggest differences in the Mustang 5.0 and Camaro SS is PRICE, Mustang's are cheaper and most people buying a SS or 5.0 are after the motor most of all, The 2012 5.0 that I just traded for this SS that I now own was $6k cheaper and basically all of the same features, that says alot when someone is payment shopping....Chevrolet needs to have a similar car for the same money or cheaper than the base 5.0 Mustang. That in itself would help sales of the Camaro's and especially the SS's.

vroomapunk · 06-02-2012, 10:17 AM

I figured differences are due to production start/stop dates for ford being different than chevy

06-01-2012, 10:56 AM	#16
Blue Maro Demon Drives: 2010 AQUA BLUE CAMARO RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,193	How did the Mustang outsell the Camaro this month by that much??? I dont understand it because last month the Camaro outsold the Mustang by like 2,000 units or so. Are the incentives on the 12' Mustangs really that good? __________________

06-01-2012, 11:02 AM	#17
Blue Maro Demon Drives: 2010 AQUA BLUE CAMARO RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,193	I guess Chevrolet needs to put more commercials for the 13' Camaro once it arrives soon. The Camaro needs to continue to outsell the Mustang every month and we need to keep up our yearly sales over the Mustang. __________________

06-01-2012, 01:53 PM	#20
GEN-IV Right Cam Drives: 2010 LS3 / 79 Z28 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maine Posts: 508	Good info, sales are strong even in a struggling economy! __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 CGM E-Force + 2015 1LT V6/A6

06-02-2012, 08:55 AM	#22
brAnd7onX Drives: 2012 1SS IOM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hutto, TX Posts: 1,642	I dont know what you guys are talking about. I saw numerous ZL1 commercials when I watched Indy and on other channels. Granted its not to the same extent of the Mustang commercials but its still out there none the less. BTW over 9,000 in sales for the month is GOOD. __________________ 2012 Camaro SS IOM "TigreSS" Borla "S" Catback C.A.I. Intake VMax Ported TB JRE Tune

06-02-2012, 09:20 AM	#24
edco Account Suspended Drives: 07gt Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: STL, MO Posts: 116	Buying Cycle Mustang sales are a five year phase ahead of Camaro in gen5 rebirth of the muscle car buying. When Camaro began deliveries (Apr 09) S197 mustangs were bought out. That is the field of buyers who wanted one had one. The 09, 10, 11, mustangs were face lifted but not enough to to pull anyone out of a paid up S197. S197 did 160,000 units per year in 05-06. That is a lot of buying in a very complex car market. That forced GM & Dodge back to muscle car production. I have an 07 GT carefully modified to keep me interested, I still can't bear to give it up! Does a buying cycle apply to Camaro? In year 4, 5, and 6, does the field of Camaro buyers saturate? The 13 Mustang is different enough from the 05 type to generate buying. This is my explanation (can be wrong depending on future sales) of the May 12 results. The 05 S197 boosted total mustang births to over 10 million. Perspective: Mustang sold 1.1 million units in 2 years. Corvette sold 1 million units in 40 years. This website for sales analysis assumes the world was born in June of 2009. May 2009, fifth full year production of S197s, 8812 mustangs were sold. Next May (13) will Camaro sell 8812 units? We will see.

06-01-2012, 03:21 PM	#21
silveradoblue327 Drives: 2002 trans am Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: webster wisc Posts: 30	thanks on the info

06-02-2012, 09:30 AM	#25
jshaf Montani Semper Liberi Drives: 2011 Black 2SS/RS w/ IOM stripes Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Masontown, WV Posts: 4,841	took a two hour drive the other day and only saw one 5th gen, which is not the norm because a week or so earlier I saw six on a 30 minute erron. alot more out there than two years ago __________________ Stainless Works 1 7/8 Long Tude Headers, Stainless Works High Flow Cats, Stainless Works Retro Chambered Catback, Z/28 Air Intake, RDP Tuned, FR41 Chrome Rims, 1100W stereo, 35% Tint

06-02-2012, 09:39 AM	#26
PistonsFan Drives: 08 CTS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Detroit Posts: 82	'12 Mustang: $2,500 cash incentive '13 Mustang: $500 cash incentive (right out of the gates) '12 Camaro: $0 cash incentive Mustang has been pretty heavy on incentives this year. Ford is trying to keep factory utilization up.

06-02-2012, 09:49 AM	#27
Vintage-Iron Banned Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 78	One of the biggest differences in the Mustang 5.0 and Camaro SS is PRICE, Mustang's are cheaper and most people buying a SS or 5.0 are after the motor most of all, The 2012 5.0 that I just traded for this SS that I now own was $6k cheaper and basically all of the same features, that says alot when someone is payment shopping....Chevrolet needs to have a similar car for the same money or cheaper than the base 5.0 Mustang. That in itself would help sales of the Camaro's and especially the SS's.

06-02-2012, 10:17 AM	#28
vroomapunk [COTW 5/12/14] Drives: 2012 CRT NF Cammed 2SS/RS For Sale Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NOLA Posts: 6,115 View My Garage	I figured differences are due to production start/stop dates for ford being different than chevy __________________