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GenF-GTS · 03-28-2015, 08:11 AM

So I was sitting there tonight thinking this is great to stop it re-entering the system but from the picture i took it looks like i can fit more wire mesh into the top of the can where the oil comes into it (see the gap/shadow area where the mesh has fallen down in the center)

I took it back off the car removed the top 90degree fitting and shoved about 1/3 of the mesh you can see in the picture above into the top, then the remaining mesh packed that around the inside again. So basically you can fit the whole lot into it and it still fits nice and snug. Reinstalled the fitting blew air through it to make sure it was not blocked again 100% perfect air will always find its way through the wire mesh.

Went for a short test drive to make sure everything was fine, oil pressure was normal, along with oil temps, gave it a few good squirts car runs fine. Checked the can after driving it has already caught a small amount of oil...very little but a small amount.

Current km's before this adjustment are: 18,372kms (11,415miles)

I'll recheck it again in 1000-2000kms (1609-3218miles) time and take the blower top off again etc.

I feel that this should be a permanent solution to the problem now, I also feel many people should do this it will certainly do no harm and it will help trap anything your current setup isn't getting.
I have messaged Elite Engineering about this and they said this was a good idea, it would have been nice if it came like this from Elite but hey now they can learn too from what we have learned.

unstable vic · 03-28-2015, 07:08 PM

Your the catch can man!

GenF-GTS · 03-28-2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by unstable vic

Your the catch can man!

Maybe you should get one

GenF-GTS · 05-02-2015, 06:40 AM

Well I am just over 20,000km's now and I said i would re-check the blower to see how the catch can is working....sad to see it looks to be the same as before even with the additional wire mesh that i have used. The length of time is no where near the same 2,000km's this check up versus the last which was 18,372km's.

As I said before I'd hate to see what it looks like without a catch can at all....but certainly this has not be solved yet...I'll continue to work on it and improve it after more engine bay room is created and the future mods are installed.

Anyway here is the pictures.

20,000km check up after it was cleaned at 18,372km

20,000km check up after it was cleaned at 18,372km

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For a comparison this is the 18,372km check up, as you can see it has more volume of oil as it's over a much longer period but it's still very similar to the 20,000km check up.

previous 18,372km check up

previous 18,372km check up

kgendron71 · 05-02-2015, 06:50 AM

Looks pretty clean to me.

GenF-GTS · 05-02-2015, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kgendron71

Looks pretty clean to me.

it's clean because i cleaned it 2,000km's ago and now it has started pooling up with oil again....in a very short time frame/distance.

ZO6 Bryan · 05-02-2015, 03:33 PM

Too much blow-by in your engine. We removed and opened up my freinds blower in his ZR1 yesterday to change pulley and injectors. 10,000 miles and it looks brand new inside. No oil at all.

And there is no catch-can on his car.

zogster · 05-02-2015, 05:05 PM

My Elite Catch can caught probably 1/5 to 1/4 of the can capacity in the first 1500 miles.

djnice · 05-02-2015, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

Too much blow-by in your engine. We removed and opened up my freinds blower in his ZR1 yesterday to change pulley and injectors. 10,000 miles and it looks brand new inside. No oil at all.

And there is no catch-can on his car.

Any idea why the difference in blow by between the two motors?

GenF-GTS · 05-02-2015, 06:27 PM

I'll be relocating my catch can and installing a 2nd one after I get my mods installed.
For the time being I have installed more steel mesh in the actual can base.

Z06 Bryan do you have photos of the blower with the lid removed.

ZO6 Bryan · 05-03-2015, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenF-GTS

I'll be relocating my catch can and installing a 2nd one after I get my mods installed.
For the time being I have installed more steel mesh in the actual can base.

Z06 Bryan do you have photos of the blower with the lid removed.

Yes, I can get him to send them to me tomorrow. Also when I opened up mine there wasn't any oil in it either.
And excess blow-by is generally from rings that haven't seated well.

GenF-GTS · 05-03-2015, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZO6 Bryan

Yes, I can get him to send them to me tomorrow. Also when I opened up mine there wasn't any oil in it either.
And excess blow-by is generally from rings that haven't seated well.

I have never caught any blow by in my catch can only oil that looks clean enough to re-use...although i discard it.

Just in case anyone is confused about what blow by is: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/blowby.html

snarky · 05-03-2015, 04:29 AM

add a second catch can. two = twice as effective as one
and install two clean side separators
get an Apex to catch what the Elite misses

ZO6 Bryan · 05-03-2015, 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenF-GTS

I have never caught any blow by in my catch can only oil that looks clean enough to re-use...although i discard it.

Just in case anyone is confused about what blow by is: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/blowby.html

But it is coming from excess crankcase pressure. The excess pressure is forcing clean oil through your PCV hose.

05-02-2015, 03:33 PM	#49
ZO6 Bryan Drives: 02 Z06, 95 Trans Am, 2012 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Southeast Posts: 1,838 View My Garage	Too much blow-by in your engine. We removed and opened up my freinds blower in his ZR1 yesterday to change pulley and injectors. 10,000 miles and it looks brand new inside. No oil at all. And there is no catch-can on his car. Attached Images __________________ Bryan 2018 ZL1 M6

05-03-2015, 04:29 AM	#55
snarky ultracrepidarianism Drives: '14 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP '18 Accord Sport Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: where folks drive like shit Posts: 1,297	add a second catch can. two = twice as effective as one and install two clean side separators get an Apex to catch what the Elite misses __________________

03-28-2015, 08:11 AM	#43
GenF-GTS Account Suspended Drives: none Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 571	So I was sitting there tonight thinking this is great to stop it re-entering the system but from the picture i took it looks like i can fit more wire mesh into the top of the can where the oil comes into it (see the gap/shadow area where the mesh has fallen down in the center) I took it back off the car removed the top 90degree fitting and shoved about 1/3 of the mesh you can see in the picture above into the top, then the remaining mesh packed that around the inside again. So basically you can fit the whole lot into it and it still fits nice and snug. Reinstalled the fitting blew air through it to make sure it was not blocked again 100% perfect air will always find its way through the wire mesh. Went for a short test drive to make sure everything was fine, oil pressure was normal, along with oil temps, gave it a few good squirts car runs fine. Checked the can after driving it has already caught a small amount of oil...very little but a small amount. Current km's before this adjustment are: 18,372kms (11,415miles) I'll recheck it again in 1000-2000kms (1609-3218miles) time and take the blower top off again etc. I feel that this should be a permanent solution to the problem now, I also feel many people should do this it will certainly do no harm and it will help trap anything your current setup isn't getting. I have messaged Elite Engineering about this and they said this was a good idea, it would have been nice if it came like this from Elite but hey now they can learn too from what we have learned.

03-28-2015, 07:08 PM	#44
unstable vic Account Suspended Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 342	Your the catch can man!

05-02-2015, 06:40 AM	#46
GenF-GTS Account Suspended Drives: none Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 571	Well I am just over 20,000km's now and I said i would re-check the blower to see how the catch can is working....sad to see it looks to be the same as before even with the additional wire mesh that i have used. The length of time is no where near the same 2,000km's this check up versus the last which was 18,372km's. As I said before I'd hate to see what it looks like without a catch can at all....but certainly this has not be solved yet...I'll continue to work on it and improve it after more engine bay room is created and the future mods are installed. Anyway here is the pictures. 20,000km check up after it was cleaned at 18,372km 20,000km check up after it was cleaned at 18,372km --------------------------------------------------------------------- For a comparison this is the 18,372km check up, as you can see it has more volume of oil as it's over a much longer period but it's still very similar to the 20,000km check up. previous 18,372km check up previous 18,372km check up

05-02-2015, 06:50 AM	#47
kgendron71 REDHOT_ZL1 Drives: 2014 Red Hot ZL1 M6 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Gainesville, Fl. Posts: 194	Looks pretty clean to me.

05-02-2015, 05:05 PM	#50
zogster Drives: 2014 RRM ZL1 M6 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: IL Posts: 659	My Elite Catch can caught probably 1/5 to 1/4 of the can capacity in the first 1500 miles.

05-02-2015, 06:27 PM	#52
GenF-GTS Account Suspended Drives: none Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 571	I'll be relocating my catch can and installing a 2nd one after I get my mods installed. For the time being I have installed more steel mesh in the actual can base. Z06 Bryan do you have photos of the blower with the lid removed.