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tramtwo · 09-20-2012, 02:00 PM

I'm a five with more work to be done on Monday.

Pending case with BBB and GM.

I have done everything asked of me by GM for the top on this car. All TSB's and CSP's and replacements of the top fabric and then water bag and then carpet. It has been a long drawn out and painful process. :(

If you are reading this thread and you have a top that has issues but your car doesn't leak please just LEAVE IT ALONE!!!
Start a case with Chevy Cust Service and request that you get a new top in the spring when GM will more than likely have a completed "top" replacement process in place.

I regret having all the band-aid "fixes" performed. I really believed I was being an informed cooperative owner, turns out my good faith was not returned. I hold GM and my dealership equally responsible.

Having said all that I still have faith in the bowtie

as they have listened to my concerns and continue to try and settle all the issues with this car, some they did not cause directly. Issues none the less that are a direct out growth of a non conforming and poor performing top product.

Angrybird 12 · 09-20-2012, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tramtwo

I'm a five with more work to be done on Monday.

Pending case with BBB and GM.

I have done everything asked of me by GM for the top on this car. All TSB's and CSP's and replacements of the top fabric and then water bag and then carpet. It has been a long drawn out and painful process. :(

If you are reading this thread and you have a top that has issues but your car doesn't leak please just LEAVE IT ALONE!!!
Start a case with Chevy Cust Service and request that you get a new top in the spring when GM will more than likely have a completed "top" replacement process in place.

I regret having all the band-aid "fixes" performed. I really believed I was being a informed cooperative owner, turns out my good faith was not returned. I hold GM and my dealership equally responsible.

Having said all that I still have faith in the bow-tie

as they have listened to my concerns and continue to try and settle all the issues with this car, some they did not cause directly. Issues none the less that are a direct out growth of a non conforming and poor performing top product.

Good advice from " The voice of Experience"...

95birdible · 09-20-2012, 02:12 PM

That is why me car with the rub from the rear deck is not going to get addressed at this time. I don't want the headaches I went through last year and this spring.
I am just going to enjoy it and see what happens. No leaks, wind noise, nothing.

Angrybird 12 · 09-20-2012, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95birdible

That is why me car with the rub from the rear deck is not going to get addressed at this time. I don't want the headaches I went through last year and this spring.
I am just going to enjoy it and see what happens. No leaks, wind noise, nothing.

Yeah these cars are great to drive with the top down. My wife and I have been out most of the day in ours. 75 degrees sunny and low humidity, perfect weather.

zandron263 · 09-20-2012, 07:43 PM

I voted number 2 I had the TSB done and the marks by the windows have not gotten worse. Lately I have noticed a few new rub marks I will just leep an eye on them for now as I am not convinced they are a real issue yet. Build date 1/28/11 original top still on.

evlar · 09-22-2012, 02:33 PM

Wow, based upon this survey, 50% of convertible tops on here are having abnormal, premature issues. Most companies have an acceptable failure rate of less than 5% -- and that's for much less expensive items.

This is no beuno for GM. They better get it right soon.

95birdible · 09-22-2012, 03:15 PM

What they should do is pony up and replace every single top with the new mechanism if that owner is having problems with it. Anyone who has had a replacement would be guaranteed a new mechanism. Those that have not should be on a case by case basis. Just my opinion.

Blitz · 09-22-2012, 06:43 PM

Traded mine for a CTS-V... I do actually miss it though.

Chiefs Fan · 09-22-2012, 09:22 PM

Number 3. My vert was built February, 2011, and has 4,000 miles. Brought it back to the dealer for the 'quick fix!' Too early to tell where it will go.

Fnfalguy · 09-23-2012, 08:01 PM

What if you have had several of the choices you put forth???????

Angrybird 12 · 09-23-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fnfalguy

What if you have had several of the choices you put forth???????

I say pick the worst one that fits.

Mick · 09-24-2012, 09:01 AM

Solid number 1. Built 04/01/2011.

decepticon-vert · 09-26-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rangomr

My car was built 2/14/12 and I bought it here in South Boston, VA 4/11/12, its the 45th Carbon Flash Metallic Convertible and it's my first convertible. NO problems with only 4,400 miles on it. Truely love the car and I hope to have some pictures of my RED Sport Bar on the car this week. Anyway I'm just learning that having a Fabric top takes some special care. 303 products work the best. Michael in Virginia

Yup, those tops need loving care.. 303 is a good way to start.

SSTOKED · 09-27-2012, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tramtwo

I'm a five with more work to be done on Monday.

Pending case with BBB and GM.

I have done everything asked of me by GM for the top on this car. All TSB's and CSP's and replacements of the top fabric and then water bag and then carpet. It has been a long drawn out and painful process. :(

If you are reading this thread and you have a top that has issues but your car doesn't leak please just LEAVE IT ALONE!!!
Start a case with Chevy Cust Service and request that you get a new top in the spring when GM will more than likely have a completed "top" replacement process in place.

I regret having all the band-aid "fixes" performed. I really believed I was being an informed cooperative owner, turns out my good faith was not returned. I hold GM and my dealership equally responsible.

Having said all that I still have faith in the bowtie

as they have listened to my concerns and continue to try and settle all the issues with this car, some they did not cause directly. Issues none the less that are a direct out growth of a non conforming and poor performing top product.

I like your approach but I question your estimate of another revision being released in the spring. I would think the top retrofit kit released to the dealers on 6/27/2012 was what GM hoped to be the last fix. I'm pretty sure you are familiar with this kit. Do you have inside info that they are working on yet another revision to this kit? When installed right they seem to be fine (so far). I think the decision Chevy needs to make is whether or not they are going to make training a priority or just swap people's whole top assembly. I'm wondering if they are short on man power for the training since the field engineers cover all makes and models of cars.

View Poll Results: How many of you are having top issues with your 5th generation camaro convertibles?
I've had no top issues with my convertible.	14	13.21%
I've had slight top issues (light wear marks, wrinkles, etc.).	49	46.23%
I've had moderate top issues (permanent wear marks, wind noise, loose fabric, etc.).	17	16.04%
I've had significant top issues (fraying, holes, leaks, broken bows, etc.)	5	4.72%
I've had my convertible top replaced at least once due to significant issues.	19	17.92%
I've had my convertible bought back under lemon law or warranty.	2	1.89%
Voters: 106. You may not vote on this poll

09-20-2012, 02:12 PM	#31
95birdible Drives: 2012 1SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Blaine, MN Posts: 1,674	That is why me car with the rub from the rear deck is not going to get addressed at this time. I don't want the headaches I went through last year and this spring. I am just going to enjoy it and see what happens. No leaks, wind noise, nothing. __________________ 2012 1SS Crystal Red Convertible "Cherry Bomb" Winner of the #NameThatCamaro Spring Special Edition "Green Flash"

09-22-2012, 03:15 PM	#35
95birdible Drives: 2012 1SS Camaro Convertible Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Blaine, MN Posts: 1,674	What they should do is pony up and replace every single top with the new mechanism if that owner is having problems with it. Anyone who has had a replacement would be guaranteed a new mechanism. Those that have not should be on a case by case basis. Just my opinion. __________________ 2012 1SS Crystal Red Convertible "Cherry Bomb" Winner of the #NameThatCamaro Spring Special Edition "Green Flash"

09-22-2012, 06:43 PM	#36
Blitz Drives: 2012 CTS-V Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 739	Traded mine for a CTS-V... I do actually miss it though. __________________

09-24-2012, 09:01 AM	#40
Mick Drives: 2011 2LT/RS M6 VR Convertible Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Southeast NH Posts: 207	Solid number 1. Built 04/01/2011. __________________ 11/20/2010 - (1100) 03/07/2011 - (2000) 03/22/2011 - (3300) (TPW 3/28) 04/01/2011 - (3800) It is ALIVE! 04/06/2011 - (4200) 4/23/2011 - (6000) Delivered!!!

09-20-2012, 02:00 PM	#29
tramtwo Drives: 2021 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: N'Awlinz Posts: 6,315	I'm a five with more work to be done on Monday. Pending case with BBB and GM. I have done everything asked of me by GM for the top on this car. All TSB's and CSP's and replacements of the top fabric and then water bag and then carpet. It has been a long drawn out and painful process. :( If you are reading this thread and you have a top that has issues but your car doesn't leak please just LEAVE IT ALONE!!! Start a case with Chevy Cust Service and request that you get a new top in the spring when GM will more than likely have a completed "top" replacement process in place. I regret having all the band-aid "fixes" performed. I really believed I was being an informed cooperative owner, turns out my good faith was not returned. I hold GM and my dealership equally responsible. Having said all that I still have faith in the bowtie as they have listened to my concerns and continue to try and settle all the issues with this car, some they did not cause directly. Issues none the less that are a direct out growth of a non conforming and poor performing top product.

09-20-2012, 07:43 PM	#33
zandron263 Drives: 2011 2LT RS IOM Convertible Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 2,020 View My Garage	I voted number 2 I had the TSB done and the marks by the windows have not gotten worse. Lately I have noticed a few new rub marks I will just leep an eye on them for now as I am not convinced they are a real issue yet. Build date 1/28/11 original top still on.

09-22-2012, 02:33 PM	#34
evlar Drives: 2011 (L99) 2SS/RS vert Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL Posts: 200 View My Garage	Wow, based upon this survey, 50% of convertible tops on here are having abnormal, premature issues. Most companies have an acceptable failure rate of less than 5% -- and that's for much less expensive items. This is no beuno for GM. They better get it right soon.

09-22-2012, 09:22 PM	#37
Chiefs Fan Drives: 11 Vert, 2SS/RS, M6, Victory Red Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 31	Number 3. My vert was built February, 2011, and has 4,000 miles. Brought it back to the dealer for the 'quick fix!' Too early to tell where it will go.

09-23-2012, 08:01 PM	#38
Fnfalguy Supreme Advisor Drives: 2011 Camaro SS Convertible Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 258 View My Garage	What if you have had several of the choices you put forth???????