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Old 11-28-2008, 05:35 PM   #26
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:57 PM   #27
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Not a chance of that happening. GM has too much money invested in the program. Not just Camaro, but other cars built on the same Zeta platform. GM would have to say cancel the much too common SUV Gas gussling "family car". Camaro is very respectable regarding fuel usage. GM is showing the world that you can have appealling performance as well as respectable fuel economy. How can that be considered the "wrong message"? I would be damn proud to claim 300 HP and 27 MPG. As it is I will have to settle for 422+ HP with 23 MPG.
The business term is “Sunk Money”. This is money that is already spent and can not be returned. If it was the right thing to do GM would shut down the Camaro program and not be concerned with the money already spent. This is done all the time, where a million plus dollar machine is bought and a month later a company shuts down that division and literally scraps the machine or sells it for pennies on the dollar. Now with that said, I believe CWIweldance is on the right track. GM has designs on many future models based on this new rear wheel design. I agree that with 27MPG, GM, and for that fact all three US manufacturers, have several other models with much worse mileage that would get shut down before the Camaro program. Finally, not just because I am a Camaro Gen 5 fan (and soon to be owner), I believe when the V8 vs. V6 sales ratio does invert like GM believes it will, an overwhelming number of the sales will be the higher MPG vehicles which, along with the Camaro’s great looks, is what America is looking for. “Long live the Camaro!”
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Old 11-28-2008, 10:30 PM   #28
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I went into my dad's work today since I am on vacation from college. And my salesmen/friend said that they WILL be getting some in, in 2 months. He gave me a little sheet that was confidential. So some dealers WILL be getting them in around feb/march. And they are about 1 hour south of the factory where it's being built so yea...
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I have heard that the Maro is being released somewhere in March 2009 as well. I hope there will be some on the lot so I can test drive one.
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:28 PM   #30
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No wonder it's so crazy up there!
Duh ........you been breathing too much exhaust????

Your lame duck still has his empty head all over the mess the econony is in south of the 49th.

Do some checking...you'll find we haven't lost a bank in 70 years and did not have a morgage melt down while George was grinning n picken.
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Old 11-29-2008, 12:02 AM   #31
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Duh ........you been breathing too much exhaust????

Your lame duck still has his empty head all over the mess the econony is in south of the 49th.

Do some checking...you'll find we haven't lost a bank in 70 years and did not have a morgage melt down while George was grinning n picken.
Unfortunately way too many people here live very far outside of their means...hence our current situation. You Canadians are like our responsible older brother who points out when we do something stupid. Oh well.
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Old 11-29-2008, 09:58 AM   #32
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Duh ........you been breathing too much exhaust????

Your lame duck still has his empty head all over the mess the econony is in south of the 49th.

Do some checking...you'll find we haven't lost a bank in 70 years and did not have a morgage melt down while George was grinning n picken.
GTO, I was just messing. I actually used to do a lot of business in Canada. I love Ottawa and used to go up there all the time. As for our situation down here, let's leave that sleeping dog lie.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:47 AM   #33
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HA HA If you want to see some great "messing" check out Rick Mercer .."Talking to Americans" . He has had a # of 1/2 hr SPECIALS on CBC .
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:21 PM   #34
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HA HA If you want to see some great "messing" check out Rick Mercer .."Talking to Americans" . He has had a # of 1/2 hr SPECIALS on CBC .
Not all Americans are bad. For example, I love curling!
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Ok this thread is taking a turn so I might as well join....... Curling.....what is the deal with this darn sport. I have never played it and sure as heck dont understand all of it but when its on TV I cant seem to change the damn channel. Why cant i stop watching it???????
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:42 PM   #36
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:46 PM   #37
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Ok this thread is taking a turn so I might as well join....... Curling.....what is the deal with this darn sport. I have never played it and sure as heck dont understand all of it but when its on TV I cant seem to change the damn channel. Why cant i stop watching it???????
Canadian mind control. Simple as that.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:01 PM   #38
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Ok this thread is taking a turn so I might as well join....... Curling.....what is the deal with this darn sport. I have never played it and sure as heck dont understand all of it but when its on TV I cant seem to change the damn channel. Why cant i stop watching it???????
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:08 PM   #39
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Yep...

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but to send mind control to Americans ....

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Old 12-01-2008, 10:13 PM   #40
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Have you guys not seen South Park? Canada is the root of all of America's problems!!!!!
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:56 PM   #41
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lol...so uhm back on topic

Unless GM says otherwise itll be sometime after February...how soon after should depend on what you ordered (color, trim, packages) and I suppose how far you are from the Oshawa plant ( that would make sense for shipping time right? )
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Hopefully they build the orders that have to go the furthest distance first because then I'll be one of the first Besides, why bother shipping cars to places that still have snow on the ground?
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:20 PM   #43
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Ok this thread is taking a turn so I might as well join....... Curling.....what is the deal with this darn sport. I have never played it and sure as heck dont understand all of it but when its on TV I cant seem to change the damn channel. Why cant i stop watching it???????
Same reason I like to watch it. It's slow motion shuffle board on ice. Facinating how the brooms can change the path of a sliding rock. Can't wait to see how accurate they are. It's the best thing to come out of Canada besides the highway. And soon the Camaro.
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Old 12-02-2008, 03:56 AM   #44
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Hopefully they build the orders that have to go the furthest distance first because then I'll be one of the first Besides, why bother shipping cars to places that still have snow on the ground?
Haven't you heard ...??? All the Canadian orders will be delivered first as Home Land Security will hold all USA orders in 90 day bond at the border.
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:16 PM   #45
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I never knew other people felt that way about curling!!! When it is on I can't stop watching it. Im so looking forward to the winter Olympics! As for Camaro...Like the rest of us on here I can't wait to get mine but if it is delayed im cool. I just want to make sure i will have one!
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Old 12-02-2008, 08:58 PM   #46
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if this car comes in around the middle of march or earlier i will be SO HAPPY you have no idea. this is my first car and i really cant wait for the day when i pick it up at the dealership. i cant wait to get behind the wheel, turn the key and hear those 422 horses rumble through the exhaust. its love
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:33 AM   #47
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lol...so uhm back on topic

Unless GM says otherwise itll be sometime after February...how soon after should depend on what you ordered (color, trim, packages) and I suppose how far you are from the Oshawa plant ( that would make sense for shipping time right? )
Shit. If this is the case, then I'm getting mine LAST. They'll probably make the black ones last. And if you go any further south in Louisiana you'll be in the Gulf of Mexico.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:34 PM   #48
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From what I've heard from MY dealer, and from dealers around me I've asked multiple questions... the "BUILD" schedule for the HP cars comming out of GM have been 10-14 days from the day of ordering. That is without shipping. So expect 3-4 weeks for everything. And well if production starts Feb. 16th 3-4 weeks from then sticks you right in the middle of March.... Which is what we've been saying the entire time.

So bet on having it March 16-22nd if you've Pre-ordered.... expect one sitting on a lot waiting to be sold around the middle of April.
Don't be disappointed if it doesn't play out like this. When YOUR dealer gets his allocation for YOUR car, you will begin to get a clearer picture of timing. You will get a TPW(target production week) a couple of weeks after YOUR order gets picked up against an alloccation for YOUR dealer. TPW is usually 5-6 weeks after order pickup. Shipping 1-2 depending on distance and if cars are held at the plant for quality audit( which will likely happen with this launch). Every store is not going to get an allocation for the first week of production. Line rate will ramp up slowly. They want this launch to be smooth and trouble free. Take a deep breath and have patience.
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they should be at the dealerships as soon as they start making them and having trucks send them out. unless they plan on producing a crap load and then sending them all out at once.
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