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Old 08-14-2010, 08:59 PM   #1
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quick question about thread sizes of the hurst shifter

can someone tell me if the hurst shifter option from the factory on the 2011 2SS's is threaded?

and also what size are the threads?

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anyone?

i really want a different shift knob than the stock hurst knob.
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Old 08-15-2010, 01:24 AM   #3
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Old 08-15-2010, 01:44 AM   #4
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so i guess that means i cant use an aftermarket knob?

the hurst website shows the knob screwing on in the instructions though.
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does anyone have a definate answer for me?
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Most Hurst shifter knobs/levers are 3/8-16 thread, like the one in my Mustang. I've never seen one that wasn't.
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ok, thats a better answer for me, i just dont like the stock hurst knob.
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ok, thats a better answer for me, i just dont like the stock hurst knob.
I highly doubt GM spec'd a different thread, it would mean more money in specialized parts. Any Hurst knob or t-handle will fit, if I'm seeing things correctly. In the threads where people have posted pics of their Hurst shifters, you can see the threads on the lever. Looks to be 3/8-16.
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I highly doubt GM spec'd a different thread, it would mean more money in specialized parts. Any Hurst knob or t-handle will fit, if I'm seeing things correctly. In the threads where people have posted pics of their Hurst shifters, you can see the threads on the lever. Looks to be 3/8-16.
great!! now i can go ahead and look for a skull shift knob
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:41 PM   #10
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Aftermarket Hurst Shifter (using the flat chrome stick) = 3/8-16 thread

GM/Hurst factory option shifter = push-on/pull-off (just like the regular knob)
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Aftermarket Hurst Shifter (using the flat chrome stick) = 3/8-16 thread

GM/Hurst factory option shifter = push-on/pull-off (just like the regular knob)

hmmm , now im not sure who to believe,

i really want to get a different shift knob than the one that comes on the hurst,

but i would hate to buy one and not be able to use it.

does anyone have the hurst factory shifter in their camaro so i can be sure?
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It is the 3/8-16...
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It is the 3/8-16...

well i hope you are right.

i dont remember where i heard,but i thought they changed them for the 2011 models.

someone correct me if im wrong.
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the shift knob im getting isnt going to be drilled when i get it.

so i will have to do that myself,
i wonder if i could make it fit if the shifter is in fact a push on knob?
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Believe me:

"Aftermarket Hurst Shifter (using the flat chrome stick) = 3/8-16 thread

GM/Hurst factory option shifter = push-on/pull-off (just like the regular knob)"

I am the Hurst engineer who designed both shifters in conjunction with many engineers from GM (Holden and GMNA).
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Believe me:

"Aftermarket Hurst Shifter (using the flat chrome stick) = 3/8-16 thread

GM/Hurst factory option shifter = push-on/pull-off (just like the regular knob)"

I am the Hurst engineer who designed both shifters in conjunction with many engineers from GM (Holden and GMNA).
hey thanks,im glad to know that for sure now.

so that means my shifter is going to have the push on knob since i ordered it with my camaro from the factory?

will there be anything special i need to do to make my new shift knob fit correctly?

any more help will be greatly appreciated,
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:57 PM   #17
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hey thanks,im glad to know that for sure now.

so that means my shifter is going to have the push on knob since i ordered it with my camaro from the factory?

will there be anything special i need to do to make my new shift knob fit correctly?

any more help will be greatly appreciated,
That is correct - you will have a push-on style knob (exactly like what is standard on all manual shifters now). Any threaded knob will not work on your shifter unless you use an adapter or modify further.
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That is correct - you will have a push-on style knob (exactly like what is standard on all manual shifters now). Any threaded knob will not work on your shifter unless you use an adapter or modify further.
do they make adapters for going from a push on to a threaded knob?
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:58 PM   #19
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Believe me:

"Aftermarket Hurst Shifter (using the flat chrome stick) = 3/8-16 thread

GM/Hurst factory option shifter = push-on/pull-off (just like the regular knob)"

I am the Hurst engineer who designed both shifters in conjunction with many engineers from GM (Holden and GMNA).

Do you know why the decision was made not to change the centering springs on the Hurst? I have a Hurst on my 92 5.0 and love the fact that I was able to choose the springs that worked best for me, and I'm trying to understand why only one company has changed the centering springs on their aftermarket shifter and it wasn't Hurst.

Thanks for any info you can provide.
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That is correct - you will have a push-on style knob (exactly like what is standard on all manual shifters now). Any threaded knob will not work on your shifter unless you use an adapter or modify further.
another quick question,

would i be able to get just the upper stick
and swap it out so that i can use a screw on knob?

and if so ,would you happen to know the part number?
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Do you know why the decision was made not to change the centering springs on the Hurst? I have a Hurst on my 92 5.0 and love the fact that I was able to choose the springs that worked best for me, and I'm trying to understand why only one company has changed the centering springs on their aftermarket shifter and it wasn't Hurst.

Thanks for any info you can provide.
The simple answer is that your 92 5.0 was a top loaded shifter directly into the transmission. All neutral centering was done by the shifter itself and REQUIRED springs in the shifter to do so. The 2010 Camaro has a transmission with a remote mounted shifter with a rod linkage and has the neutral centering inside the transmission. Yes- additional springs can be added externally, but they add to the force required to get the shifter into the 1-2 and 5-6 shift planes. I can't tell you how many complaints we get from customers when we add any additional resistance (our Corvette shifter comes to mind). Even very light springs cause issues with many of your average customer. Additionally, external springs increase complexity, weight, and cost that would ultimately be passed on to the customer. In this instance we opted for the KISS principle (google it, if you don't know).

By the simple physics of a reduced throw & lighter than stock shifter, the centering force is increased in the Hurst aftermarket shifter design anyway.
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another quick question,

would i be able to get just the upper stick
and swap it out so that i can use a screw on knob?

and if so ,would you happen to know the part number?
No- the GM/Hurst factory shifter is NOT two piece like the aftermarket version. It is an isolated one-piece design almost identical in appearance to the current non-Hurst version.
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No- the GM/Hurst factory shifter is NOT two piece like the aftermarket version. It is an isolated one-piece design almost identical in appearance to the current non-Hurst version.

hmmm ok.

the shift knob im getting isnt going to be drilled at all when i get it,

so what kind of mounting hole would i have to have cut into the shift knob to make it fit the stick?

thanks for all your answers..
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The simple answer is that your 92 5.0 was a top loaded shifter directly into the transmission. All neutral centering was done by the shifter itself and REQUIRED springs in the shifter to do so. The 2010 Camaro has a transmission with a remote mounted shifter with a rod linkage and has the neutral centering inside the transmission. Yes- additional springs can be added externally, but they add to the force required to get the shifter into the 1-2 and 5-6 shift planes. I can't tell you how many complaints we get from customers when we add any additional resistance (our Corvette shifter comes to mind). Even very light springs cause issues with many of your average customer. Additionally, external springs increase complexity, weight, and cost that would ultimately be passed on to the customer. In this instance we opted for the KISS principle (google it, if you don't know).

By the simple physics of a reduced throw & lighter than stock shifter, the centering force is increased in the Hurst aftermarket shifter design anyway.
Thank you for the explanation, I had a feeling it had something to do with the newer tech, but as a shade-tree mechanic I'm only familiar with the cars I work on myself, which are basically cars that I own. I can't wait to try someone's Hurst personally! I knew you all wouldn't have done it without a good reason, and I love my old one!
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