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Old 08-18-2010, 12:44 AM   #15
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I've changed the fluid when I've changed the pads/rotors. Maybe I should change it before each track event, instead of every other event?
A flush before eas\ch event is a very good idea. Make sure you are using the good stuff, like AP600 -- or AP PRF if you want to go all out NASCAR-style.

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I'm using 275/40-20 tires on the factory 9" wheel. I'm still debating wheels/tires. When we take the car to One Lap next year, we need to run a tire from Tire Rack since they sponsor the event. The Michelin Pilot Sport is a good choice, but I'm torn between going to an 18" or a 19" wheel, in part because I may want to go with bigger brakes. I'd be real interested in hearing about the new AP brakes.
We are sizing the new setup to clear 18" racing wheels as tire selection and pricing is better for us track junkies. 19's should be no problem at all. A larger rotor would be unnecessarily heavy, something this car doesn't need any more of! The front rotors will be 36mm thick, 72-vane and high-grade AP Racing iron alloy, so thermal stability should be well under control. We use the same rotor on modified M3's that are regularly tracked. Camaros are almost 200 lbs. heavier, so brake ducting will be recommended for the fastest guys on the heavy braking tracks. Peak temperature monitoring will be important for pad selection as well.

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Old 08-18-2010, 08:36 AM   #16
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You know... For track time per dollar spent, he has a pretty good plan in place using the factory rotors he can pick up for pennies on the dollar, and spending the money saved upgrading the helmet contents
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:40 AM   #17
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Search for what Pedders did with CTS-V calipers/rotors. There's a new thread with some comments on pads and what-not, too. This is a direction I'd seriously consider because I'm all about making sure I have access to replacement parts when I need to.

I was considering getting the cts-v 6 pistion front calipers but can you run the stock 4 piston on the rear when doing this swap??
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:12 AM   #18
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I was considering getting the cts-v 6 pistion front calipers but can you run the stock 4 piston on the rear when doing this swap??
Umm... yes! Sorry, mixed this question up entirely.

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Old 08-18-2010, 10:14 AM   #19
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You know... For track time per dollar spent, he has a pretty good plan in place using the factory rotors he can pick up for pennies on the dollar, and spending the money saved upgrading the helmet contents
Agree 100%, assuming he hasn't already been doing so. If he has, he'll be needing better brakes down the road anyway.

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Old 08-18-2010, 10:24 AM   #20
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I was considering getting the cts-v 6 pistion front calipers but can you run the stock 4 piston on the rear when doing this swap??
Yes you can. The CTS-V rear caliper is the same as the SS rear caliper. They use the same size pad and backing plate. The ONLY reason I change the rear calipers on my Camaro was to have the colors matched to CTS-V silver. I knew that was going to have a shirt shelf life. The fronts are now gold tone after our last track session.

If you make the CTS-V front caliper swap use the CTS-V pads all around.

If you make the CTS-V swap you will have Cadillac rotors in the front and Camaro rotors in the rear.

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I was considering getting the cts-v 6 pistion front calipers but can you run the stock 4 piston on the rear when doing this swap??
Do you mean, can the OE front caliper be used on the rear?
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:20 PM   #22
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Do you mean, can the OE front caliper be used on the rear?
No sir. This is the 'brake' down if you choose to retain the rear SS caliper. The front will have CTS-V Caliper, Pins, Clips, Pads and Rotors. The rear will have Camaro SS REAR Calipers, Pins, Clips and Rotors with CTS-V pads.

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Old 08-18-2010, 12:37 PM   #23
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I was thinking about this setup also. If I went with the front cts-v setup and keep the stock rears and wanted to upgrade pads, do you just order pads for cts-v and they all swap out?
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Old 08-18-2010, 12:52 PM   #24
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You know... For track time per dollar spent, he has a pretty good plan in place using the factory rotors he can pick up for pennies on the dollar, and spending the money saved upgrading the helmet contents
This was actually my plan. Brake fluid, pads, and take-off rotors are relatively inexpensive. Four track events should cost me 2 sets of front pads, 2 sets of front rotors, 1 set of rear pads, 1 set of rear rotors, and if I change my fluid each time, 4 quarts of fluid. My cost for brake consumables here is around $600, and some of my time to do the work.

On the other hand, a big brake kit front and back is $5000. A set of front Racing Brake 2 piece rotors is $1000. And I'm assuming I'll still be going through pads/fluid like before. Maybe the rotors will last longer, but warping a $500 rotor is the same as if I warped TEN $50 rotors.
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[QUOTE=JusticePete;2232763]No sir. This is the 'brake' down if you choose to retain the rear SS caliper. The front will have CTS-V Caliper, Pins, Clips, Pads and Rotors. The rear will have Camaro SS REAR Calipers, Pins, Clips and Rotors with CTS-V pads.[/QUOTE

didn't catch the last part of this post, that answers my question. But if we wait a little longer will the cts-v parts be Camaro Z28 parts?
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I was thinking about this setup also. If I went with the front cts-v setup and keep the stock rears and wanted to upgrade pads, do you just order pads for cts-v and they all swap out?
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