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Old 08-31-2009, 07:57 AM   #1
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GM better get a move on with the Camaro

Because many prospective buyers don't have the patience to wait 4-6 months to get a car - it's a wicked ride no doubt but there is a point when you simply have to move on. Get them on the lots and make them available - quit making your Malibus and Equinoxes and put all your plants on the ONE car that is actually selling - the Camaro. The whole "hard-to-find" game is over.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:04 AM   #2
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Because many prospective buyers don't have the patience to wait 4-6 months to get a car - it's a wicked ride no doubt but there is a point when you simply have to move on. Get them on the lots and make them available - quit making your Malibus and Equinoxes and put all your plants on the ONE car that is actually selling - the Camaro. The whole "hard-to-find" game is over.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:04 AM   #3
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Because many prospective buyers don't have the patience to wait 4-6 months to get a car - it's a wicked ride no doubt but there is a point when you simply have to move on. Get them on the lots and make them available - quit making your Malibus and Equinoxes and put all your plants on the ONE car that is actually selling - the Camaro. The whole "hard-to-find" game is over.
Estimates around the dealers here in NC are now down to 8 - 12 weeks... Not bad at all if you ask me...


EDIT: Of course, estimates and real-life are many times off considerably...guess that's why they call them estimates...LOL.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:05 AM   #4
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4-6 months? i have waited 8 weeks today expected to get the car this week. you just have to find the right dealer.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:06 AM   #5
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You just requested the impossible. How do you propose a factory with SUV parts make a Camaro for instance? They've already got the plant working overtime. There's simply nothing else they can do. You and everyone else will get theirs in time.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:06 AM   #6
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You have to remember the Camaro is not for everyone. It would be more irresponsible to produce them as you suggest and flood the market with them. A lot of people are afraid of rear wheel drive these days. They still have to build for the masses not just the enthusiast
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:16 AM   #7
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However I don't agree with all GM plants building the camaro but this is getting rediculous for me.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:16 AM   #8
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Right now that average time frame from dealers in Central Florida area (the 6 I have talked to) have said 8-12 weeks. Several of the dealerships around here have inventory on the lot's 1-4 cars LT's and SS's.

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Old 08-31-2009, 08:18 AM   #9
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I guess it would be nice to actually receive your car while it's still new and fresh instead of getting it a few months down the line when it's a dime a dozen.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:21 AM   #10
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Ron Westphal Chevrolet in Aurora, IL has 2 black SS Camaros on the lot as of Saturday evening...
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:24 AM   #11
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I'll get my 2010 in 2010 looks like....lol
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:32 AM   #12
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I'll get my 2010 in 2010 looks like....lol
LOL, Giggity!!

Hrm, maybe they need to just go ahead and start doing pre-orders for 2011 models if anyone was wanting the next version lol. I myself will probably be getting my 2010 in 2012 when I find a nice used one LOL.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:32 AM   #13
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I'll get my 2010 in 2010 looks like....lol

Same with me. will be ordering in November.

As for having all plants make the 2010 Camaro...just insane. They would have to refit all those factories to build it, costing millions of $$$$$.

Anyway...wait your 8-12 weeks, you will get it. I sold my Firebird 2 months ago, and I know I won't be taking delievery until Feburary 2010. Have a lease to settle up with.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:36 AM   #14
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Because many prospective buyers don't have the patience to wait 4-6 months to get a car - it's a wicked ride no doubt but there is a point when you simply have to move on. Get them on the lots and make them available - quit making your Malibus and Equinoxes and put all your plants on the ONE car that is actually selling - the Camaro. The whole "hard-to-find" game is over.
You're seriously requesting GM to put all it's eggs in one basket? Remind me not to hire you as a stock broker...
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:37 AM   #15
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Terry Labonte Chevy in Greensboro, NC has a gorgeous RJT 2SS and a VR 2LT on the lot right now.

They also have a slightly used SIM 2SS RS with black rally stripes and Flowmaster Supper 44 axle back exhaust installed. (Dude found out he's going to be a father shortly after taking delivery of the car and had to opt for a family car). Startup and rev sounds awesome.

So there are cars out there to be purchased...
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:44 AM   #16
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Because many prospective buyers don't have the patience to wait 4-6 months to get a car - it's a wicked ride no doubt but there is a point when you simply have to move on. Get them on the lots and make them available - quit making your Malibus and Equinoxes and put all your plants on the ONE car that is actually selling - the Camaro. The whole "hard-to-find" game is over.
lol production knowledge fail.

lol sales knowledge fail.

lol business knowledge fail.

If you haven't checked, Malibus are still selling extremely well and Equinoxes are flying off the lot. There is actually a wait time for an Equinox similar to that of a Camaro, believe it or not. Dealers in my area can barely keep them in stock. Impalas are still selling very well for an antiquated platform, GMT-900s are still selling in the tens of thousands every month. GM cannot put all of its cards into the Camaro because it is not the car for everyone. People still want sedans, people still want trucks, people still want SUVs, people still want crossovers. GM has to deliver in all segments. That's how you run a successful car company, offer a wide range of products that appeal to a wide range of consumers.

Furthermore, you have absolutely no understanding of what goes into producing a car. GM cannot have every assembly plant switch over to Camaro production overnight. Unless the plant in question is a flex plant, it requires weeks, sometimes months, of retooling, a very expensive process. For example, the Lordstown Assembly plant is currently retooling for production of the Chevy Cruze, a car that isn't going into production until APRIL of next year.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:44 AM   #17
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lol production knowledge fail.

lol sales knowledge fail.

lol business knowledge fail.

If you haven't checked, Malibus are still selling extremely well and Equinoxes are flying off the lot. There is actually a wait time for an Equinox similar to that of a Camaro, believe it or not. Dealers in my area can barely keep them in stock. Impalas are still selling very well for an antiquated platform, GMT-900s are still selling in the tens of thousands every month. GM cannot put all of its cards into the Camaro because it is not the car for everyone. People still want sedans, people still want trucks, people still want SUVs, people still want crossovers. GM has to deliver in all segments. That's how you run a successful car company, offer a wide range of products that appeal to a wide range of consumers.

Furthermore, you have absolutely no understanding of what goes into producing a car. GM cannot have every assembly plant switch over to Camaro production overnight. Unless the plant in question is a flex plant, it requires weeks, sometimes months, of retooling, a very expensive process. For example, the Lordstown Assembly plant is currently retooling for production of the Chevy Cruze, a car that isn't going into production until APRIL of next year.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:45 AM   #18
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Things will start to get much better. The biggest delay was caused from all the preorders. They had to fill 6 months of preorders before most new orders could be filled. Soon, orders will begin to be filled immediately and dealers will have excess stock on their lots.

Hang in there a little while longer.
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Oh, and someone in my area just got their Camaro after 5 weeks. That's about the standard wait time for any ordered vehicle, so I would think Oshawa's finally up to speed.
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Old 08-31-2009, 08:52 AM   #20
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Oh, and someone in my area just got their Camaro after 5 weeks. That's about the standard wait time for any ordered vehicle, so I would think Oshawa's finally up to speed.
yep, my dealer told me 4-6 weeks. which is why i havne't ordered mine yet! but they are definitely speeding up!
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Because many prospective buyers don't have the patience to wait 4-6 months to get a car - it's a wicked ride no doubt but there is a point when you simply have to move on. Get them on the lots and make them available - quit making your Malibus and Equinoxes and put all your plants on the ONE car that is actually selling - the Camaro. The whole "hard-to-find" game is over.
Go ahead and buy something else. Leave the Camaro you would have gotten for someone who wants the Camaro experience more than that of an imitation.

Then you can deal with selling whatever you bought at a loss to get the Camaro you should have waited for.

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Old 08-31-2009, 09:04 AM   #23
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Things will start to get much better. The biggest delay was caused from all the preorders. They had to fill 6 months of preorders before most new orders could be filled. Soon, orders will begin to be filled immediately and dealers will have excess stock on their lots.

Hang in there a little while longer.
Yeah but did they have to do the AVIS fleet before some pre-orders? I'm kinda uninformed on that move by GM so forgive me if i'm totally off. I just vaguely remember people saying that avis had rentals of camaros before some pre's got delivered.

Hell i'm just totally still amazed on how how people have pre-ordere/ordered vehicles they never even sat in. I must commend everyone on being a true camaro fan because I totally wouldn't buy a car for the name/history if I haven't sat in it first....which I haven't even sat in it LOL. It's like rolling the dice for me.
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I ordered "blindly" in October of last year, and picked up my 2SS on July 15. I was not disappointed AT ALL. I think in a way the "blindness" even made the experience sweeter!
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Because many prospective buyers don't have the patience to wait 4-6 months to get a car - it's a wicked ride no doubt but there is a point when you simply have to move on. Get them on the lots and make them available - quit making your Malibus and Equinoxes and put all your plants on the ONE car that is actually selling - the Camaro. The whole "hard-to-find" game is over.

What a great idea! Not like GM is having any financial issues. Lets just throw all eggs in one basket, that will keep GM on its feet. Not like the Malibu has been rated best in initial value for past two years, or that the Equinox has been the number one selling in its segment, and thats Before the 2010. And fyi... The waiting list for the 2010 Equinox is about as long as it is for the Camaro.
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