Price gouging on 2010 Camaro already beginning!

[gagliano7]

I agree but we all have to stick together and not buy over sticker.It just takes one a hole to ruin it for everyone.

[Caliman93230]

Originally Posted by gagliano7

I agree but we all have to stick together and not buy over sticker.It just takes one a hole to ruin it for everyone.

Supply and Demand. There will always be some rich ass "hole"s to ruin it for the rest. But then again it has always been that way, thats why the dealers are going to overprice the first camaros. ( A) not enough supply (B) way to much demand. However until production catches up with demand don't expect the camaros to be sold at MRSP by the dealers, but there is exceptions so good luck .

[DntWrryBeHappy21]

eh i wont be able to afford too much over msrp even if i wanted (not that i want to) im all for refusing anything more than msrp even $1 more :-)

[1stCamaro]

Originally Posted by BlacLac02

this really pissed me off when i heard about marking up the price of the camaro 20- 25 grand over sticker, first of all this is going to totally mess up gm's plan of continuing to make the camaro if they dont even reach their goal of the 100,000 the first year. just because some prick at the dealership wants to make some more money because they know the camaro is going to be a huge seller. theres no way in hell im paying anything over sticker for this car especially anywhere near 10 grand over. thats just rediculous.

Nissan is charging 30k over MSRP. I'll be surprised if anyone pays 5k over sticker.

PS: Black/Black SS for me

[1stCamaro]

Originally Posted by 1stCamaro

Nissan is charging 30k over MSRP. I'll be surprised if anyone pays 5k over sticker.

PS: Black/Black SS for me

Sorry fellows I was referring to the Nissan GTR

[Caliman93230]

Mi guess is that once the camaro convertible comes out the prices will most definitely be better at least for the V6 , I don't know about the SS ? It just depends how many units GM plans on making.

[playhard67]

There will be dealers that will sell the camaro at MSRP..or below when it is first introduced. See the thread for some of them

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=621

[dimitri]

iam here in philly area and spoke with about 8 dealers and two said they will mark above msrp the rest said you cant mark up a car which will produce over 80,000 units i put my name on there list and see what happens

[dimitri]

Originally Posted by Txturbo

Well.....won't happen here. Anybody that knows any better won't flop over to the blue oval that easy. I wouldn't get a Ford if they were giving them away. Chevys have always been a couple thousand more than a comparable Ford vehicle and I believe they are worth it. And "you get what you pay for". I have no problem paying a couple thousand more because its always been that way. People who switch brands just because "the other one didn't have a passenger cup holder" or "this ones a prettier color" are just clueless.

Well said !!!

[chevysalesman]

For starters I want to point out that the Gm Reps are saying that the production will most likely be 35% V8 and 65% V6 Will that have an affect on price gouging? Probably, also only sold orders are accepted right now no allocated units for inventory so the opportunity is all yours and on top of that the only gougin I have seen is about $2500 not a whole lot to be the first!!!
And the first buyers are also company's and collectors not your typicall consumer and this should also help the dealers, salespeople, and GM!
I have a meeting tomorrow with an aftermarket company who will be purchasing a V8 model from me to use to Fabricate aftermarket products for the accesories market!!! I look forward to the Camaro and Not to concerned with price for that will take care of itself. I am a salary Salesman and my dealership does fair deals market based!!! we meet or beat deals every day!!
Feel free to e-mail jakins@paceauto.net
Thanks:flag2:

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by chevysalesman

For starters I want to point out that the Gm Reps are saying that the production will most likely be 35% V8 and 65% V6 Will that have an affect on price gouging? Probably, also only sold orders are accepted right now no allocated units for inventory so the opportunity is all yours and on top of that the only gougin I have seen is about $2500 not a whole lot to be the first!!!
And the first buyers are also company's and collectors not your typicall consumer and this should also help the dealers, salespeople, and GM!
I have a meeting tomorrow with an aftermarket company who will be purchasing a V8 model from me to use to Fabricate aftermarket products for the accesories market!!! I look forward to the Camaro and Not to concerned with price for that will take care of itself. I am a salary Salesman and my dealership does fair deals market based!!! we meet or beat deals every day!!
Feel free to e-mail jakins@paceauto.net
Thanks:flag2:

ANYTHING over MSRP is gouging in my opinion. and the dealers that are doing it should be boycotted. but you always have those customers that will pay anything to have one of the first ones, so as long as those people are out there dealers will mark them up to whatever people will pay...

I say if your dealer wats more than MSRP for ANY car.. Walk off the lot and never go back. call around, there will be dealers selling for MSRP.. I guarentee it..

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by chevysalesman

For starters I want to point out that the Gm Reps are saying that the production will most likely be 35% V8 and 65% V6 Will that have an affect on price gouging? Probably, also only sold orders are accepted right now no allocated units for inventory so the opportunity is all yours and on top of that the only gougin I have seen is about $2500 not a whole lot to be the first!!!
And the first buyers are also company's and collectors not your typicall consumer and this should also help the dealers, salespeople, and GM!
I have a meeting tomorrow with an aftermarket company who will be purchasing a V8 model from me to use to Fabricate aftermarket products for the accesories market!!! I look forward to the Camaro and Not to concerned with price for that will take care of itself. I am a salary Salesman and my dealership does fair deals market based!!! we meet or beat deals every day!!
Feel free to e-mail jakins@paceauto.net
Thanks:flag2:

This however may change due to the number of V8 sold orders there are from enthusiasts. I would expect it to be close to that after it hits the dealer lots and people can go see them.

[Lloyd LeBaron]

I need to vent. I hate price gouging and sales men.

here are the facts that I discovered before i ordered my 2ss/rs

Paying anything over MSRP will Not guarantee you will have the first Camaro. Being first to order at your dealer will Not guarantee you will get yours first either, think about it why would they put one camaro on a 10 car carrier just for you. the pre order limit dealers get are just a pre order limit and does not reflect production run numbers. this will be a high volume production run expect 100k or more produced, They are competing with the mustang after all. Expect to see a lot of traded in used mustangs in Chevy lots.

I payed MSRP for mine after a little discussion with the dealer. He wanted 5k over msrp, I told him what i knew and he then asked me what he had to do to get me in the car today. I told him I'll pay MSRP and to take the 5k extra off the price, He said that was "ridiculous" and i thanked him for agreeing with me. lol he then gave me the "ill go talk to my manager" line, came back and gave it to me for MSRP.

[Foster26]

Originally Posted by Lloyd LeBaron

I need to vent. I hate price gouging and sales men.

here are the facts that I discovered before i ordered my 2ss/rs

Paying anything over MSRP will Not guarantee you will have the first Camaro. Being first to order at your dealer will Not guarantee you will get yours first either, think about it why would they put one camaro on a 10 car carrier just for you. the pre order limit dealers get are just a pre order limit and does not reflect production run numbers. this will be a high volume production run expect 100k or more produced, They are competing with the mustang after all. Expect to see a lot of traded in used mustangs in Chevy lots.

I payed MSRP for mine after a little discussion with the dealer. He wanted 5k over msrp, I told him what i knew and he then asked me what he had to do to get me in the car today. I told him I'll pay MSRP and to take the 5k extra off the price, He said that was "ridiculous" and i thanked him for agreeing with me. lol he then gave me the "ill go talk to my manager" line, came back and gave it to me for MSRP.

Did you actually order the car and get an order number? Did you get a copy of the GM workbench order? I would make certain you have this. IMO, this scenario will almost guarantee you that your car will be one of the last they order. If I were you, I would certainly look for a dealer that has a very strong reputation, is willing to sell at MSRP, and still has available allocations. This dealer obviously wants to make additional profit from marking them up so don't be surprised if other orders are placed ahead of yours. Believe me, there are good, honost dealers out there who want nothing more than sell as many Camaros as possible at a fair price while earning potential loyal satisfied customers. Not saying this dealer is not honost, just saying it appears they want to make a high profit on their first allocations.

[edog]

I walked into Koons Chevy in Tyson's Corner Va last week to check out the IOM color. They had 20 Camaro's listed on the dry erase board. The first 7 were listed at MSRP, then the price over MSRP went up from there. They had a few circled as ordered. One was listed at 10K over MSRP and the other at 20K over MSRP. I believe 4 of the 7 listed at MSRP were circled as preordered.

I know people out there have money, but what would someone need to tell you to part with 10/20k over what the Manufacturer has recommended?

Are people that clueless on fair value, or that desperate to be the first?

I have my 2 SS/RSS IOM on order. I ordered in the first few day. I cancelled my first order and re-ordered with a dealer who was being fair and selling for MSRP only.

I could not imagine paying out 20K in addition to the actual MSRP for this vehicle!

[GothamCamaro]

Originally Posted by edog

I know people out there have money, but what would someone need to tell you to part with 10/20k over what the Manufacturer has recommended?

Are people that clueless on fair value, or that desperate to be the first?
I could not imagine paying out 20K in addition to the actual MSRP for this vehicle!

Wow, I don't understand it either, every saved dime I have is into having the Camaro at MSRP... 10K to 20K?? Especially at times like these? I gotta imagine those over MSRP willing to pay it....will be very, very few. The rest of us know better, I know they are hurting for customers but don't they know that we're fighting for every saved dime to even get one?

[Lloyd LeBaron]

I have a 6 digit number. not sure what the GM workbench order is

[Riles]

That's how I'd run my business. With the current state of affairs at GM I think a little price gouging will go a long way to increase customer confidence in the company. Are you kidding me? Why would anyone give over sticker on a car their going to make a million of. It's a Camaro and the lots will be full of them in a few months and they will be begging to get rid of them. Cool car, but come on...over sticker? Get real.

[wickedcpa]

Here is part of the letter my dealer sent me ( I told them I will be interested in 6-9 months)......

"Camaro is a limited production vehicle this year. We are allocated only 18 through October and already have 14 of them as sold orders. It is actually a good thing that you are thinking along that time line, since all the orders we are taking for this first batch are selling for a minimum of $3500 over MSRP. Supply & Demand, you know. The good news is, by the time you are ready to order yours GM will be up to full production and prices will be more reasonable."

At least he's honest. I, for one, will NOT be paying over MSRP for this vehicle. Its my mid-life crisis car and I can wait....... LOL!

[live2well]

Originally Posted by wickedcpa

Here is part of the letter my dealer sent me ( I told them I will be interested in 6-9 months)......

"Camaro is a limited production vehicle this year. We are allocated only 18 through October and already have 14 of them as sold orders. It is actually a good thing that you are thinking along that time line, since all the orders we are taking for this first batch are selling for a minimum of $3500 over MSRP. Supply & Demand, you know. The good news is, by the time you are ready to order yours GM will be up to full production and prices will be more reasonable."

At least he's honest. I, for one, will NOT be paying over MSRP for this vehicle. Its my mid-life crisis car and I can wait....... LOL!

What dealer was that?

[diffrunt]

ordered mine 10/16,notified 5/15 del, a little under msrp.

[SSOOCH]

My dealer got awarded additional allocations from GM because they are one of the only in the state who are selling at MSRP so in the end they'll make more!! So GM can ask dealers to not sell over MSRP, but they can't stop dealers. The best thing is to just go buy from a dealer who is. And if you want the car bad enough and can't wait, then pay over.

[Iwantone2]

SSOOCH, when did your dealer get awarded more allocation? It happened to my dealer back at the end of March, and I'm hoping that it will happen again.

[SSOOCH]

Originally Posted by Iwantone2

SSOOCH, when did your dealer get awarded more allocation? It happened to my dealer back at the end of March, and I'm hoping that it will happen again.

April 23rd.

[jag107]

Went to Lake Chevy in Lake Elsinore today to check out their one yellow 1lt auto. $5k dealer markup, with a sign in the window "NO TEST DRIVES". So, there's one more dealership to cross off my list!
Told me they will get a V8 in 2 weeks, they have 3 slots left, but all Camaros will be sold with a markup. No wonder the only customers there were in the service dept! How do these places stay in business with that attitude, especially with so many other local dealerships promising MSRP or less?
In short, avoid Lake Chevy in Elsinore and Singh Chevy in Riverside, for all you so cal buyers.