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Old 08-17-2010, 11:30 AM   #1
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tvs 1900 OR tvs 2300???

I'm in the market for a blower, as some of you know that have answered my many questions in recent days. My next question is this... Do I need the tvs 1900 OR tvs 2300? How far can I go with the 1900? What is the real difference between the two blowers? I am not planning on going crazy with the car. My plan was to be right there with the Z28 or GT500 out of the box but still be in the safe zone without worrying about blowing my engine. Will the 1900 offer me that or do I need to step it up to the 2300? Forgive me if my questions sound elementary, it;s just that the supercharger is a new chapter in the books for me. I appreciate all your guys help.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:40 AM   #2
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TVS2300. You will not damage your engine if properly installed and tuned.
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:01 PM   #3
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I think the most popular choice is the 2300. I think MTI Racing used and modded the 1900 though with good results.

I think the 1900 will give you a little more low end and if you aren't going to go nuts, would work for you. I'd look at pricing and what you can get as I don't think you could go wrong either way.

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Old 08-18-2010, 05:08 AM   #4
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Any more thoughts on this... from what I have been reading on the web it sounds like depending how far I want to go and if I am leaving the bottom end stock the 1900 is the way to go. Is there any truth behind this? I have even read that the 1900 is more efficent for applications like that. Keep in mind as far as I want to go is the blower, my Rot-fab, and custom tune. I don't even know if I would go as far as headers down the road.
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Any more thoughts on this... from what I have been reading on the web it sounds like depending how far I want to go and if I am leaving the bottom end stock the 1900 is the way to go. Is there any truth behind this? I have even read that the 1900 is more efficent for applications like that. Keep in mind as far as I want to go is the blower, my Rot-fab, and custom tune. I don't even know if I would go as far as headers down the road.

By not swapping out to longtubes, you're leaving about 30-40rwhp on the table with a blower setup. While the factory manifolds flow well with the stock setup, they really start to restrict the power once you strap on a blower. Since your'e spending the money anyway, you might as well get the most bang for your buck.
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Sounds like the 1900 will do everything you want to do. It's a few dollars cheaper. The down side is that when you decide to get rid of it, the 1900 will "cost" you more than you saved on the front end.

The 2300 won't be any harder on your engine. Boost/power is what damages parts. The 2300 is perfectly capable of providing lots of fun at lower boost/power levels. Any differences in effeciencies or boost delivery will be really hard to notice. Personally, I can't see any sound reason to get the 1900. Maybe that's why you don't see many 1900's around.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:38 AM   #7
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Go with the 2300. Don't take the chance of not being able to add more HP if and when you need to. With the 2300 you can add anything you want without having the SC not be big enough. You say now you don't want to do much more but that is the same thing I use to say. Don't limit your future HP cause you might save a couple of hundred $$ now. Put the 2300 on now and get ready for more. Haven't you heard? HP is the new Crack Cocain. I'm about 550rwhp now and could stand a little more. My 2300 is doing it's job. Enjoy your new addiction. LOL!
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Go with the 2300. Don't take the chance of not being able to add more HP if and when you need to. With the 2300 you can add anything you want without having the SC not be big enough. You say now you don't want to do much more but that is the same thing I use to say. Don't limit your future HP cause you might save a couple of hundred $$ now. Put the 2300 on now and get ready for more. Haven't you heard? HP is the new Crack Cocain. I'm about 550rwhp now and could stand a little more. My 2300 is doing it's job. Enjoy your new addiction. LOL!
Is'nt the 1900 capable of 550rwhp, especially if I do long tubes and the proper pulley? I see everyones point and appreciate all the answeres. I am just trying to educate myself more. I guess the point is, I don't ever plan on going internal by any means. If that be the case, would the 1900 be enough in the long run to get me to 500 - 550 rwhp with LT', Tune, and CAI? If not, I will go definetly go with the 2300. It's not a money thing...its just an overkill thing i'm looking at. If I'm not going to use it, is it worth paying for it?
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Is'nt the 1900 capable of 550rwhp, especially if I do long tubes and the proper pulley? I see everyones point and appreciate all the answeres. I am just trying to educate myself more. I guess the point is, I don't ever plan on going internal by any means. If that be the case, would the 1900 be enough in the long run to get me to 500 - 550 rwhp with LT', Tune, and CAI? If not, I will go definetly go with the 2300. It's not a money thing...its just an overkill thing i'm looking at. If I'm not going to use it, is it worth paying for it?
If you're never ever ever going to want more than about 550.....if you're never ever ever going to want to sell it, then the 1900 might be just right for you.
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I agree with Camaro54, its better to have the extra power and not use it, then not have it, and want the more power.
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I dont know if thier is a major price difference between the 1900 vs 2300, but the 2300 is more bang for the buck and you might try Tim at www.TandTperformance.com
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:57 AM   #13
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2300 WTF!
WTF?????

FTW maybe?


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I am having the same question running through my head.

While at the American Muscle Car Challenge a Magnuson rep was on site and said that the 1900 was really all that was needed for the 6.2, but the 2300 leaves more room to grow. I guess it comes down to how confident you (we) are that you will be satisfied with the power that the 1900 delivers through the 6.2.

As long as you don't go crazy (like some of the guys on here with huge built motors and swapping out 2-3 different SC setups) I think the 1900 would be fine. If you think one day you might want a 416 or larger engine, I say get what you will want for the final project and save some money in the long run.

I'm just not sure there is enough of a price difference between the 1900 vs 2300 to warrant the possibility of having to buy two due to future upgrades.

Best advice is find a shop you trust and get your final goals in mind and build toward them. As long as the huge HP/TQ bug doesn't bite me, I'll be shooting for 600/600 and calling it a day.
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whats the price difference between both of them????
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whats the price difference between both of them????
$600.00 Also (i think, will look into this more if needed) the 1900 does not require fuel injectors to be swapped out, the 2300 does.
I have a customer with a GXP G8 who seems to be thinking the same way as the OP. He also does not want to put any undue stress on the engine.
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I've been thinking of the same thing. I want to boost my car, but how much? This is my daily driver and I don't compete with my car. I'll do a few test and tune nights in the year and that's it.

I also don't want to dig into my engine, not yet or at least not for 10 years.

I'm basicly looking from something that is going to give me a nice amount of boost with the least amount of added stress to the car. I'd like to stay around the 475 to 500 RWHP range.
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Just go 2300. You will be happier with it.
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We wll have a complete test with our stock ls3 and the 1900,i have been very impressed with how snappy the 1900 is on the heavy camaro. We have some customers at 660 rwhp with a 1900 in a gto so there capable of great numbers.If i was keeping a stock bottom end and wanted to be safe i would lean towards the 1900.We are finishing up one more test with our bolt in 9 inch and then we will start a thread with the 1900 and how it responds to mods.
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I may be wrong but it seems I was told by a magnus rep that the 2300 was quiter than the 1900. Since I was not familiar with SCs I knew I didn't want a loud whining noise. So between the facts of quiter, handles more HP and great experience with the 2300s and the Camaro SS I was sold.
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Just go 2300. You will be happier with it.

No disrespect, but how is this helping me make an educated assessment between the 1900 and the 2300? I'm not interested in putting something on my car just because it can produce huge numbers. I want something that is going to last and not have to do a complete engine rebuild in 4 to 6 years from now.
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Just go 2300. You will be happier with it.
I'm sure I will be happy with any blower, I just don't want one that is going to be overkill for what I am looking accomplish. Why i this such a hard question to answere for even for the so called experts over there?. I can't believe this is the first time this question has been presented to them.
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i went with the 2300 based on thats what most have done and they have not had any issues. you can go with all stock setup on the 2300, get the warranty from magnacharger and be safe...

also in the future when you want to sell your car you can pull off the 2300 and i think there will be a more demand on the 2300 to sell later on...
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Is'nt the 1900 capable of 550rwhp, especially if I do long tubes and the proper pulley? I see everyones point and appreciate all the answeres. I am just trying to educate myself more. I guess the point is, I don't ever plan on going internal by any means. If that be the case, would the 1900 be enough in the long run to get me to 500 - 550 rwhp with LT', Tune, and CAI? If not, I will go definetly go with the 2300. It's not a money thing...its just an overkill thing i'm looking at. If I'm not going to use it, is it worth paying for it?
I'm curious too. At what point does it really matter? If we run the 1900 or the 2300 at 6psi with maybe headers and exhaust and didn't go any firther would it really matter? Does the 1900 run hotter because it works harder? Does the 1900 fit under the hood better? How much of a $$$ difference between the two is there ?

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I may be wrong but it seems I was told by a magnus rep that the 2300 was quiter than the 1900. Since I was not familiar with SCs I knew I didn't want a loud whining noise. So between the facts of quiter, handles more HP and great experience with the 2300s and the Camaro SS I was sold.

That's probably because the 1900 would have to spin faster to make the same psi at all rpms on a 6.2L and because of this the 1900 probably runs hotter. Because of both these things , I'm guessing, the 2300 would be better.

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We wll have a complete test with our stock ls3 and the 1900,i have been very impressed with how snappy the 1900 is on the heavy camaro. We have some customers at 660 rwhp with a 1900 in a gto so there capable of great numbers.If i was keeping a stock bottom end and wanted to be safe i would lean towards the 1900.We are finishing up one more test with our bolt in 9 inch and then we will start a thread with the 1900 and how it responds to mods.
So what your saying is if you put a 1900 or a 2300 on an otherwise stock camaro you will get the same results? What about longevity of the blower and engine? It the under the hood heat and air going into the motor heat about the same ? I read somewhere that the 1900 actually was better for throttle response and low rpm snap, maybe because it is building press smoother, is this true ?


Will a 1900 support a 415 or 416 motor at 6 psi ?
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Keep the question coming guys.. this is getting interesting.

Now all we need is a solid answere...

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