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Old 11-30-2008, 02:12 AM   #26
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Ok...first knock it off with the triple posts before I jump through that screen and...!!!! (gotta pull your leg there)

Second...

There are a couple technical issues GM is dealing with. This could be the other I was told of. It is entirely possible. I mean...it's not like GM would WANT to come out and say, "Houston...we have a problem." They would rather keep wraps on the problem, work through it, and you would never know the problem ever existed. There is an issue with the ambient, this could be issue #2.

All I have to say is this....KEEP THE FAITH. It will be just fine. GM won't put out an auto SS if they are going to have to recall it down the road...will NEVER happen. NEVER.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:41 AM   #27
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Ok...first knock it off with the triple posts before I jump through that screen and...!!!! (gotta pull your leg there)

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There are a couple technical issues GM is dealing with. This could be the other I was told of. It is entirely possible. I mean...it's not like GM would WANT to come out and say, "Houston...we have a problem." They would rather keep wraps on the problem, work through it, and you would never know the problem ever existed. There is an issue with the ambient, this could be issue #2.

All I have to say is this....KEEP THE FAITH. It will be just fine. GM won't put out an auto SS if they are going to have to recall it down the road...will NEVER happen. NEVER.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:38 AM   #29
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It's a good list. Anyways, who cares about the auto?
Hey!! I care about the auto. Just cos I ordered an SS auto doesnt make me any less of a Camaro fan or this or that. I need auto cos of simplicity as I travel a lot and am om the phone a lot!
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:37 AM   #30
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Hey!! I care about the auto. Just cos I ordered an SS auto doesnt make me any less of a Camaro fan or this or that. I need auto cos of simplicity as I travel a lot and am om the phone a lot!
Good job, I'm getting the auto too.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:41 AM   #31
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Getting auto also.

Plus just got this note from fbodfather:

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Is there a big difference on the auto vs the stick? People are saying the AFM makes the autos SS sound not as powerfull.

I hope that is not true since I ordered an auto. If it is I may need switch to stick.

Let me know as soon as you can.

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They do not sound the same -- and one of the reasons for this is that AFM -- obviously -- allows the engine to run in 4 cylinders....so we had to specially tune the AFM cars.......

I would not say that they sound wimpy!!!
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:45 AM   #32
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Getting auto also.

Plus just got this note from fbodfather:

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Is there a big difference on the auto vs the stick? People are saying the AFM makes the autos SS sound not as powerfull.

I hope that is not true since I ordered an auto. If it is I may need switch to stick.

Let me know as soon as you can.

Thanks

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They do not sound the same -- and one of the reasons for this is that AFM -- obviously -- allows the engine to run in 4 cylinders....so we had to specially tune the AFM cars.......

I would not say that they sound wimpy!!!
Coming from fbodfather, ya gotta love it! I'm glad you posted this.
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:43 PM   #33
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Well, after you tried to screw your customers by charging $5-20k over MSRP for the early Challengers, what do you expect? I just hope that the honest dealers realize what caused the original issue and punish the idiot dealers. Chevy dealers who have similar plans for the Camaro need to rethink their strategy.
The dealer I bought my Camaro from originally stated they were going to get $5K over sticker! I reminded them that I had bought my last three vehicles (two Silverado’s and a Buick Century) form them for over $80K total, and now you want to screw me on my dream car? I went to another dealer in town and he choked for about two minutes before he said he was more interested in securing additional allotment than screwing his customers for the extra $5K, however, he wasn't convincing when he answered. I went back to the first dealer and told him I was looking to buy the car from the other dealer, and it was going to be at sticker. He then stated the salesperson who told me they were getting over sticker was incorrect and that he would sell it to me at sticker. By then I knew what pricing was (thanks to this great site) and was able to buy it at sticker.
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:49 PM   #34
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:28 PM   #35
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It's a good list. Anyways, who cares about the auto?
a lot of people do. especially those who arent cruising around in underpowered neons who need to have the manual to feel like they have a real car....


Just messin with ya....lol


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All I have to say is this....KEEP THE FAITH. It will be just fine. GM won't put out an auto SS if they are going to have to recall it down the road...will NEVER happen. NEVER.
no, they'll just take away the AFM and give us all regular LS3's in our autos. which would then get stalled to the heavens. lol



and by stalled, im refering to torque converters...
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a lot of people do. especially those who arent cruising around in underpowered neons who need to have the manual to feel like they have a real car....


Just messin with ya....lol




no, they'll just take away the AFM and give us all regular LS3's in our autos. which would then get stalled to the heavens. lol



and by stalled, im refering to torque converters...
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Weight. Ding!

Engine choices. Ding!

SS priced like a G8 GT and G8 GXP. Yes, DING!

And on and on.

I bet they ARE having some kind of issue, and I also bet they'll have it worked out long before it delays any deliveries.

The L99 is just an LS3 with AFM thrown in. It will be OK.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:21 PM   #37
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The Camaro won't be delayed. Your insider is lying to you or more evidence needs to be presented, such as what department your insider works.

I am now obligated to post a list of people who tend to provide relatively factual information. These are the first users that I trust on Camaro5 when it comes to new information or rumors.

This is the reliable users list.

• fbodfather (GM insider)
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:01 PM   #38
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The dealer I bought my Camaro from originally stated they were going to get $5K over sticker! I reminded them that I had bought my last three vehicles (two Silverado’s and a Buick Century) form them for over $80K total, and now you want to screw me on my dream car? I went to another dealer in town and he choked for about two minutes before he said he was more interested in securing additional allotment than screwing his customers for the extra $5K, however, he wasn't convincing when he answered. I went back to the first dealer and told him I was looking to buy the car from the other dealer, and it was going to be at sticker. He then stated the salesperson who told me they were getting over sticker was incorrect and that he would sell it to me at sticker. By then I knew what pricing was (thanks to this great site) and was able to buy it at sticker.
That's a good story! That's was being informed as a buyer can do for you.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:03 PM   #39
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I updated the list!

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As long as the car gets made, delays don't bother me too much.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:05 PM   #40
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I would be more concerned about it getting made and being a quality car. I would rather it be delayed than have issues.
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I heard from an insider friend of a friends brother-in-law's second cousin twice removed that the dodge and ford boys are quaking in fear because of date February 16th.....I don't dare name names, most of us have seen the wrath of the black suburbans against info wielding chevy salesmen.... I PLEAD THE 5th! (5th GEN that is.....)
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I'm just sharin' the CAMARO LOVE - and have been PROUD TO DO SO since July of 2008 on here, and earlier in another "place".

Thanks for the nomination!
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The Camaro won't be delayed. Your insider is lying to you or more evidence needs to be presented, such as what department your insider works.

I am now obligated to post a list of people who tend to provide relatively factual information. These are the first users that I trust on Camaro5 when it comes to new information or rumors.

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• CamaroScotty (dealer)
• teamlynn1 (dealer)
• The_Blur (always listen to this guy!)
I'm a member at the largest GM news website on the internet and I don't get on the list?!

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Old 11-30-2008, 08:20 PM   #44
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Blur, you are going to regret posting that list for the rest of your time here on this site!
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Haha I really don't care. Just posted for laughs.
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Just like no one is guilty in prison, everyone on this site is credible!
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