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Old 11-29-2008, 10:07 PM   #18
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I updated the list!

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Old 11-29-2008, 11:18 PM   #19
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It's not completely unbelievable that the AFM in the L99 could be having issues, that is a helluva technology....but that being said I would have to hear it from Scott to really break a sweat about it.
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:36 PM   #20
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It's a good list. Anyways, who cares about the auto?
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:39 PM   #21
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I doubt it will be delayed. Tap shifting trannies have been around a long time it's something that can be debuged. The Turbo Hydro's have been around a loong time so it's not like they are dealing with something unknown.
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Old 11-29-2008, 11:46 PM   #22
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Even if it were true, better a delay than putting out a poor quality car, like the GTR and their launch control feature!

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/20/n...rom-2010-gt-r/
I agree. If it is delayed for this reason, I imagine it won't be a long delay and such a delay would be better than a faulty product out on the market. I wouldn't worry too much either way.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:46 AM   #23
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If I see one more "insider" info from someone's brother's step-sister-inlaw's twice removed cousin was a janitor at the grocery store when Bob Lutz walked in and overheard him talking to the guy in produce about the Camaro
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Old 11-30-2008, 01:00 AM   #24
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:40 AM   #25
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K, first of all i said COULD BE BAD, COULD BE DELAYED!, Second i said to choose to believe it or not, did i say it was set in stone, i put it up there to see if anyone else had heard something similar. I dont need anyone flaming on me for posting something that i thought other members might want to know. I never said it was fully credible, re-read my post before jumping to any conclusions and flaming me for it, next time dont choose to read it if you dont like insider info, this site normally doesnt have this problem of people flaming others like camaroz28.com has, thats why i joined this site and not that one. So please dont flame me, and why would anyone close to me bullshit, really?

And second, i knew about the ambient lighting way before alot of people on this forum from an insider source.

oh and the camaro coming back, when they were in the talks
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:12 AM   #26
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Ok...first knock it off with the triple posts before I jump through that screen and...!!!! (gotta pull your leg there)

Second...

There are a couple technical issues GM is dealing with. This could be the other I was told of. It is entirely possible. I mean...it's not like GM would WANT to come out and say, "Houston...we have a problem." They would rather keep wraps on the problem, work through it, and you would never know the problem ever existed. There is an issue with the ambient, this could be issue #2.

All I have to say is this....KEEP THE FAITH. It will be just fine. GM won't put out an auto SS if they are going to have to recall it down the road...will NEVER happen. NEVER.
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:41 AM   #27
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Ok...first knock it off with the triple posts before I jump through that screen and...!!!! (gotta pull your leg there)

Second...

There are a couple technical issues GM is dealing with. This could be the other I was told of. It is entirely possible. I mean...it's not like GM would WANT to come out and say, "Houston...we have a problem." They would rather keep wraps on the problem, work through it, and you would never know the problem ever existed. There is an issue with the ambient, this could be issue #2.

All I have to say is this....KEEP THE FAITH. It will be just fine. GM won't put out an auto SS if they are going to have to recall it down the road...will NEVER happen. NEVER.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:22 AM   #28
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• Dragoneye
• TAG UR IT
• Tran (Camaro5)
• MarkLS2 (Camaro5)
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• radz282003
• Mindz
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• Moose
• KILLER74Z28
• bouncertime
• SilverTurtle
• MerF
• aston70
• Kyle2k
• CamaroScotty (dealer)
• teamlynn1 (dealer)
• The_Blur
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TX Turbo and I ask - where's the love?
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:38 AM   #29
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It's a good list. Anyways, who cares about the auto?
Hey!! I care about the auto. Just cos I ordered an SS auto doesnt make me any less of a Camaro fan or this or that. I need auto cos of simplicity as I travel a lot and am om the phone a lot!
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:37 AM   #30
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Hey!! I care about the auto. Just cos I ordered an SS auto doesnt make me any less of a Camaro fan or this or that. I need auto cos of simplicity as I travel a lot and am om the phone a lot!
Good job, I'm getting the auto too.
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:41 AM   #31
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Getting auto also.

Plus just got this note from fbodfather:

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Is there a big difference on the auto vs the stick? People are saying the AFM makes the autos SS sound not as powerfull.

I hope that is not true since I ordered an auto. If it is I may need switch to stick.

Let me know as soon as you can.

Thanks

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They do not sound the same -- and one of the reasons for this is that AFM -- obviously -- allows the engine to run in 4 cylinders....so we had to specially tune the AFM cars.......

I would not say that they sound wimpy!!!
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:45 AM   #32
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Getting auto also.

Plus just got this note from fbodfather:

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Is there a big difference on the auto vs the stick? People are saying the AFM makes the autos SS sound not as powerfull.

I hope that is not true since I ordered an auto. If it is I may need switch to stick.

Let me know as soon as you can.

Thanks

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They do not sound the same -- and one of the reasons for this is that AFM -- obviously -- allows the engine to run in 4 cylinders....so we had to specially tune the AFM cars.......

I would not say that they sound wimpy!!!
Coming from fbodfather, ya gotta love it! I'm glad you posted this.
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:43 PM   #33
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Well, after you tried to screw your customers by charging $5-20k over MSRP for the early Challengers, what do you expect? I just hope that the honest dealers realize what caused the original issue and punish the idiot dealers. Chevy dealers who have similar plans for the Camaro need to rethink their strategy.
The dealer I bought my Camaro from originally stated they were going to get $5K over sticker! I reminded them that I had bought my last three vehicles (two Silverado’s and a Buick Century) form them for over $80K total, and now you want to screw me on my dream car? I went to another dealer in town and he choked for about two minutes before he said he was more interested in securing additional allotment than screwing his customers for the extra $5K, however, he wasn't convincing when he answered. I went back to the first dealer and told him I was looking to buy the car from the other dealer, and it was going to be at sticker. He then stated the salesperson who told me they were getting over sticker was incorrect and that he would sell it to me at sticker. By then I knew what pricing was (thanks to this great site) and was able to buy it at sticker.
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