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Old 11-30-2008, 11:02 PM   #51
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check out this link on the Corvette forum. Look for the posts by MONTVALEGOLF. Claims to have over 30 yrs with GM and is saying late Aug. at the earliest for the SS to be built with late May production for non V8. Also says don't hold your breath for the Camaro and claims to not be going by hearsay


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Not registered -- pls go tell him that I said he's wrong.

(we've already built a couple of SSs.....)
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^ Here's the thread, page 2

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-camaro-2.html


MONTVALEGOLF - Searched his posts on Corvette Forum - he's legit. Best hope is his source is plain wrong.

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And kdecro, is the fbod quote from a PM? or where?

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Old 12-01-2008, 05:16 AM   #54
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He has to have some big balls. If he really works for GM and is spreading stuff like that if and they find him he is out of a job. Even if he is right which I hope he is not he is hurting GM buying saying it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:07 AM   #55
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The Camaro won't be delayed. Your insider is lying to you or more evidence needs to be presented, such as what department your insider works.

I am now obligated to post a list of people who tend to provide relatively factual information. These are the first users that I trust on Camaro5 when it comes to new information or rumors.

This is the reliable users list.

• fbodfather (GM insider)
• JohnnyCamaro (GMPP insider)
• 80Zedder (GM insider)
• Dragoneye
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• Tran (Camaro5)
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• CamaroScotty (dealer)
• teamlynn1 (dealer)
• The_Blur (always listen to this guy!)
Damn....must be a hard list to get on....I posted the first salesmans reference guide and I didn't even make it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:20 AM   #56
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As some one else has stated, I would rather them delay the arrival instead of releasing junk, just to release it.

I hope it isn't so, but the longer I wait, the more I want to wait for the crate motor options that are coming "supposedly" in the fall of 09. It seems like they have all kinds of motor mods ready for the "actual" 2010 models. They have showed the LS7, the LS9 will be a crate motor "supposedly", and lots of GMPP, why not offer a "decked out" version (Z28, COPO, Yenko, ZL1, etc)? What ever they want to call it.

The fact that Fbodfather hasn't responded to this to stomp out the fire kind of adds a little credence to the rumor. Maybe it isn't worth his time to respond though, I don't know, I am new here and don't really know how he responds to this kind of accusations.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:32 AM   #57
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Well if it does get pushed back to summer late fall, I will have to buy my V-6 Accord since my lease will be up on April 15th.

That makes me think I will wait for 2011 or latter to see if Z28 or some other faster version comes out.
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:26 AM   #58
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Damn....must be a hard list to get on....I posted the first salesmans reference guide and I didn't even make it.
HERE COMES THE SUBURBANS!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-01-2008, 08:29 AM   #59
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HERE COMES THE SUBURBANS!!!!!!!!!!
The salesmen were handing them out like candy at a parade the day I stopped by the dealership......of course it was Bill Heard Chevrolet and they are closed now.....
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If this is true my son as told me he'll cancel his order and buy a Mustang GT (do you know how that will break my heart???).

He's due back from Iraq in April 09 and wants to have a new car waiting for him. GM needs to kill these rumors right now.
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If this is true my son as told me he'll cancel his order and buy a Mustang GT (do you know how that will break my heart???).

He's due back from Iraq in April 09 and wants to have a new car waiting for him. GM needs to kill these rumors right now.
Tell him to just put his order in. If GM was really worried about this, do you think they would continue to allow us to order the car in that powetrain combo?
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:28 AM   #62
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Tell him to just put his order in. If GM was really worried about this, do you think they would continue to allow us to order the car in that powetrain combo?
My dealer is trying to change my original order (2LT/RS) for an 2SS/RS today. I spoke with him about 30 minutes ago. He said he's having trouble with the GM order system not accepting it - getting some error message.

He said he needs to call and find out what's going on, he's able to change Corvette and other vehicle orders.

BTW I ordered my 2LT/RS on Oct 15th but decided I wanted the CTS-V and am attempting to convert my order to my son who wants the 2SS.

So something is going on.
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My dealer is trying to change my original order (2LT/RS) for an 2SS/RS today. I spoke with him about 30 minutes ago. He said he's having trouble with the GM order system not accepting it - getting some error message.

He said he needs to call and find out what's going on, he's able to change Corvette and other vehicle orders.

BTW I ordered my 2LT/RS on Oct 15th but decided I wanted the CTS-V and am attempting to convert my order to my son who wants the 2SS.

So something is going on.
Some aren't accepting changes yet, mine didn't when I tried last week. I ended up cancelling my order and having him reimput it the way I wanted. You might have to do the same.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:11 AM   #64
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I hope this is not true...if so I too will hold off I think to see if they bring out a Z28 with 500hp.

I really would like to have the FINAL WORD on this stuff...I'm getting a new Camaro either way but I sure would like to know for sure if it's spring 2009 or summer/fall 2009!

More time means more money saved but also means more time to wait!
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:57 AM   #65
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Damn....must be a hard list to get on....I posted the first salesmans reference guide and I didn't even make it.
The list is nice.

But,

I'm thinking there are quite a few names left off. Lil Weasel, Robert91rs, 3whiterag, Chadrcr, and the list goes on and on.

Bottom line this site has informed people on it. Our members include other camaro site mods and admins, Desciples, the everday joe that is a student of all things Camaro. More insiders than can be counted, all here to help make this site what it is.

But its the cumulative effect of all of us that makes it such a cool place to be.
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Guys, I really think everything will be fine. Don't start changing orders around, cancelling, etc because of a rumor. Nothing has been verified true or debunked as false. This is all just talk.

If there is an issue w/ this L99 and the auto, you better believe that GM has ALL of their people on it right now working it out. DO NOT WORRY.

For those having problems changing orders, it's the ordering system. You must either have you dealer call OR cancel the order and reorder. Those are the only two ways to change orders which, for some unknown reason, can't be changed due to computer gliches.
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Old 12-01-2008, 11:13 AM   #67
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I hope this is not true...if so I too will hold off I think to see if they bring out a Z28 with 500hp.
Gosh for your sake I hope it's not true... You may not live long enough to see a new 500HP Z28 (at least one factory built)
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Sorry but that guy sounds like he is full of it, or he is listening to someone in his company who is full of it. Anybody here with a job should know rumors fly and gain legs in a workplace like noones business. I'm sure there is still some engineering going on, and if there is I'm sure Scott can't comment on it which is why he hasn't replied. The company as well is pushing the virtues of the V6 as they see that will be their bread and butter in the end (enthusiasts aside of which there aren't enough of us to make this profitable).

Oh and a few of the recent test cars that we have seen random pics of are SS's... we can't confirm the tranny choice obviously.

I am not worried because unlike many I don't believe everything I read on the internet... even though it must be true because it's here!
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Gosh for your sake I hope it's not true... You may not live long enough to see a new 500HP Z28 (at least one factory built)
Yeah I know...but I can always wish!

I have my 2SS on order...I'm good with that! It's been a long time coming and I'm just ready!
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I really would like to have the FINAL WORD on this stuff...I'm getting a new Camaro either way but I sure would like to know for sure if it's spring 2009 or summer/fall 2009!

More time means more money saved but also means more time to wait!


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The list is nice.

But,

I'm thinking there are quite a few names left off. Lil Weasel, Robert91rs, 3whiterag, Chadrcr, and the list goes on and on.

Bottom line this site has informed people on it. Our members include other camaro site mods and admins, Desciples, the everday joe that is a student of all things Camaro. More insiders than can be counted, all here to help make this site what it is.

But its the cumulative effect of all of us that makes it such a cool place to be.
I couldn't have said this any better.

I could swear I remember seeing an engineer say that while they were taping for that saving GM eposide over the summer that they felt there was some more left they needed to tune on the V8s, so perhaps this is what your insider was suggesting. That was several months ago now so if that was the case it probably isn't anymore. Regardless of that, I'm sure there's nothing to be worried about. GM isn't going to do this car wrong. Look how much thought they put into all aspects of the car. With the way things are now, I'm sure they have a vested interest in making sure this car delivers, and more, and appeals to as many buyers as possible. Like many others, I don't thing there's a reason to worry until someone trustworthy says, and I don't ever see that happening

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Sorry but that guy sounds like he is full of it, or he is listening to someone in his company who is full of it. Anybody here with a job should know rumors fly and gain legs in a workplace like noones business. I'm sure there is still some engineering going on, and if there is I'm sure Scott can't comment on it which is why he hasn't replied. The company as well is pushing the virtues of the V6 as they see that will be their bread and butter in the end (enthusiasts aside of which there aren't enough of us to make this profitable).

Oh and a few of the recent test cars that we have seen random pics of are SS's... we can't confirm the tranny choice obviously.

I am not worried because unlike many I don't believe everything I read on the internet... even though it must be true because it's here!
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[QUOTE=Rogue Leader;205444]Sorry but that guy sounds like he is full of it, or he is listening to someone in his company who is full of it. QUOTE]

If your stating that im full of it,... i have serious anger issues that i am beginning to try to supress in my head. Watch what you say and try to be respectful without offending anyone, i clearly stated to believe what you want, and that i am sure it will be worked out. And i only passed info i thought you would want to hear. Do not say i am full of it. I hate people who accuse people based on assumptions.
Im sure everyone at GM wants to break out rumours of the camaro having flaws especially when their jobs are counting on it. Re-think your statement, theres always possibilities of running into difficulties, but they work them out. We are all confident in GM's effort with the Camaro.
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If your stating that im full of it,... i have serious anger issues that i am beginning to try to supress in my head. Watch what you say and try to be respectful without offending anyone, i clearly stated to believe what you want, and that i am sure it will be worked out. And i only passed info i thought you would want to hear. Do not say i am full of it. I hate people who accuse people based on assumptions.
Im sure everyone at GM wants to break out rumours of the camaro having flaws especially when their jobs are counting on it. Re-think your statement, theres always possibilities of running into difficulties, but they work them out. We are all confident in GM's effort with the Camaro.

Sorry I should have been clearer in my post I wasn't speaking of you actually I was talking about the aforementioned poster from Corvetteforum (Montvalegolf?), who I thought was the same guy you were referring to in your original post. I figured we were so far gone from the original post this would have been clear. My bad.
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If your stating that im full of it,... i have serious anger issues that i am beginning to try to supress in my head. Watch what you say and try to be respectful without offending anyone, i clearly stated to believe what you want, and that i am sure it will be worked out. And i only passed info i thought you would want to hear. Do not say i am full of it. I hate people who accuse people based on assumptions.
Im sure everyone at GM wants to break out rumours of the camaro having flaws especially when their jobs are counting on it. Re-think your statement, theres always possibilities of running into difficulties, but they work them out. We are all confident in GM's effort with the Camaro.
Easy bro, i'm near positive Rogue was refering to whomever the 'inside source' is, not a personal shot @ you
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Easy bro, i'm near positive Rogue was refering to whomever the 'inside source' is, not a personal shot @ you
Appreciate it, i was confused, but i would post anything here if i thought it was bull. Believe me i would check on it twice. But anyways thats that
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