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Old 11-30-2008, 11:24 AM   #1
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Lowering the camaro - what's going to happen?

I'm thinking of lowering the camaro - not sure, maybe 1-1.5". I like the lower look, I think it's real bad-ass, just my opinion. My question is how does lowering a car effect the suspension/performance/handling? Is it a good idea or not? How should I lower it?

I don't like the idea of having "bags" on the car but it is a possibility so I can raise it when I need to. I live in Philly (anybody who's been there knows of the potholes - the streets are almost like off-road streets). My main concern is I want to lower it without spending a lot of money, but I also don't want it to negativley affect the performance or handling. For me this car is performance 1st, looks 2nd.

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I'm thinking of lowering the camaro - not sure, maybe 2-3". I like the lower look, I think it's real bad-ass, just my opinion. My question is how does lowering a car effect the suspension/performance/handling? Is it a good idea or not? How should I lower it?

I don't like the idea of having "bags" on the car but it is a possibility so I can raise it when I need to. I live in Philly (anybody who's been there knows of the potholes - the streets are almost like off-road streets). My main concern is I want to lower it without spending a lot of money, but I also don't want it to negativley affect the performance or handling. For me this car is performance 1st, looks 2nd.

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The car is already pretty low, much lower in person than pictures show. At 3" your clearance is going to be complete ass... scraped ass that is!
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The car is already pretty low, much lower in person than pictures show. At 3" your clearance is going to be complete ass... scraped ass that is!
True.. I Was @ INDY I was Shocked at How Low These Sit From The Factory. I Doubt You Will Want To lower it Once You Get it..

Plus With those HUGE Rims/Rubber you dont have a lot of room to play with if i remember right..
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2-3" ? do you want it to set on the ground? this isnt a 67 impala now....
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:02 PM   #5
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2-3" ? do you want it to set on the ground? this isnt a 67 impala now....

Not on the ground, maybe a little above. lol. I honestly have no idea - If blackzbandit is right and it is really low then I won't lower it. I just can't imagine Camaro making it really low off the production line. I'll have to wait and see, mabye only 1.5 inches, maybe nothing at all. Not really sure yet!
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most of the kits are .5 inchs to maybe 1.5inch at the most, with a full kit your get rid of alot of the body roll from the factory suspension, and will be able to corner alot flatter and quicker, steering response should feel quicker too. although you sacrifice the ride quality somewhat it will still be good depending on how firm you set it up but you wont like hiting potholes or speedbumps with it.

this is a different car but heres the only example i can give you, my friend has a infiniti G35(stock suspension) and took it to a autox course instead of his normal car a 240sx(all aftermarket suspension), either way the g35 had so much roll in it the front bumper was scrubbing on the hard corners. but it rides so smooth with normal driving. his 240sx however drives almost perfectly flat around every corner but damn near beats my brains out on the interstate or any road that isnt perfect.
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3 inches will give your undercarriage a very intimate relationship with the asphalt that you could do without. I am going to lower mine, but only in the front. It still won't be by much considering how low they are straight off the conveyor belt.
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ummm... its going to get lower and the ride quality is going to get worse
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Not on the ground, maybe a little above. lol. I honestly have no idea - If blackzbandit is right and it is really low then I won't lower it. I just can't imagine Camaro making it really low off the production line. I'll have to wait and see, mabye only 1.5 inches, maybe nothing at all. Not really sure yet!
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3 inches will give your undercarriage a very intimate relationship with the asphalt that you could do without. I am going to lower mine, but only in the front. It still won't be by much considering how low they are straight off the conveyor belt.
After seeing it in person I decided I'll probably drop mine either 1", or .5" in the back and 1" - 1.5" (which is realy pushing it) in the front. 2" - 3"?
If you lower it an inch your handling will definitely improve, but as others have said the ride will be a bit harsher - the shorter your springs the stiffer they have to be. Or you could use drop spindles but that's $$.
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:53 PM   #12
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After seeing it in person I decided I'll probably drop mine either 1", or .5" in the back and 1" - 1.5" (which is realy pushing it) in the front. 2" - 3"?
If you lower it an inch your handling will definitely improve, but as others have said the ride will be a bit harsher - the shorter your springs the stiffer they have to be. Or you could use drop spindles but that's $$.

Please note that I edited my original post to 1-1.5" - I now realize that's more reasonable. I haven't seen it in person, only pictures. Some of the pics I've seen it looks like you can lower it 2" and be okay. Thanks for all the imput - do you guys have any recommendations for actually lowering it? How much I lower it really isn't a concern yet b/c when I see the car in person I'll know exactly how much to lower it!
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Please note that I edited my original post to 1-1.5" - I now realize that's more reasonable. I haven't seen it in person, only pictures. Some of the pics I've seen it looks like you can lower it 2" and be okay. Thanks for all the imput - do you guys have any recommendations for actually lowering it? How much I lower it really isn't a concern yet b/c when I see the car in person I'll know exactly how much to lower it!
The guys from Pedder's that post on here have a lowering kit in the works, a Stage 1 kit I beleive () but that may be more than what you're looking to spend. You can always go with some Eibach lowering springs which are a relatively cheap and quality fix, or like I suggested before, drop spindles (if they're made for the Camaro) but they also = $$.

If I got anything wrong or left anything out anybody feel free to correct me... still learning myself!
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Lowering the car lowers the COG on the car, generally stiffens up the suspension, and gives the driver a better feel of the road, In general it really helps the handling, assuming that the suspension still has perfect range of movement.


In general what is affected by lowering is the alignment, not to mention the position the shocks are generally used in, thus if shocks that have been properly valved for the lowered position are not used, the stock shocks will prematurely fail (were not talking immediate, but maybe 50-75% reduction in life.... Simply a guess).
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In general what is affected by lowering is the alignment, not to mention the position the shocks are generally used in, thus if shocks that have been properly valved for the lowered position are not used, the stock shocks will prematurely fail (were not talking immediate, but maybe 50-75% reduction in life.... Simply a guess).
they will wear faster than that. when I first lowered my 94Z i just replaced the springs with lowering springs and put brand new stock shocks in (i know, im stupid), and it wasnt 6 months before they bottomed out.

1.5" drop springs equate to about a 2" overall drop once everything settles out.
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my gtp is lowered, and I also love the look, but this car doesn't need it imo. Besides, sometimes the extra jolt from bumps gets annoying. But I do love the cornering.
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Lowering the car lowers the COG on the car, generally stiffens up the suspension, and gives the driver a better feel of the road, In general it really helps the handling, assuming that the suspension still has perfect range of movement.


In general what is affected by lowering is the alignment, not to mention the position the shocks are generally used in, thus if shocks that have been properly valved for the lowered position are not used, the stock shocks will prematurely fail (were not talking immediate, but maybe 50-75% reduction in life.... Simply a guess).
Sounds like you know what you're talking about, so if one were to have ambitions having dropping their car about an inch what would suggestion be to do it safely (besides not doing it)?
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Sounds like you know what you're talking about, so if one were to have ambitions having dropping their car about an inch what would suggestion be to do it safely (besides not doing it)?

.5-.7" drop springs and revalved shocks. then get an alignment.
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.5-.7" drop springs and revalved shocks. then get an alignment.
Can the original shocks be revalved or should you buy new ones?
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im planning on lowering mine but i was going to go with 1.5-2 inches. they are pretty low but the good thing is that the front ends arent as long as they wereon the 4th gen which meens you dont have to take such a drastic angle to get into some raised parking lots. i had it down pretty good with my T/A.
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I would by new ones. If you get a good set, the new ones will be fully adjustable and you won't have to worry about it again.
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1" drop eh? If you want it done on the cheap, lowering springs and an alignment.

Shocks will be fine for a couple of years (honestly) if you have good roads. By that time you might want to go with full coil overs, or if you like the ride and the shocks are starting to get a little bouncy then replace your shocks with properly valved shocks.

Your not lowering the car all that much.

Its like a 150lb driver vs a 250lb driver and passenger for 2 years.

Yes weight will lower a car. (So if you want to go super cheap, fill the bumpers with 200lbs of lead.... done!!! {and its been done before})
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I'm thinking of lowering the camaro - not sure, maybe 1-1.5". I like the lower look, I think it's real bad-ass, just my opinion. My question is how does lowering a car effect the suspension/performance/handling? Is it a good idea or not? How should I lower it?

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Thanks for you help!
1 to 1.5 inch drop will work. Dropping it super low will have some very aggressive negative affects on the geometry of the Camaro.
Pedders will have available drop coils, and an eXtreme XA Mono tube 30 way adjustable coil over with 3 different spring options.

You are getting a Camaro. Even the V6s will be performance oriented. Dropping it too much will make a show car only. All show and no go!!

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