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Old 08-19-2010, 04:54 AM   #1
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Reccomendation on Road coarse/Autocross Tires

I am looking for the best set-up for road coarse racing and autocross racing.
I have a full set of factory 20x9 rims (4 corners) I am looking for the best brands and tire size for front and rear. I would like to to hear from form members and vendors about there opinion's and that has been tested on the track.... Thanks
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Old 08-19-2010, 07:12 AM   #2
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Here is some information you may find useful. Also as a side note for those considering tires larger than recommended for a specified rim width please read the last two paragraphs.

http://www.aimtire.com/typ_category.asp?ObjectID=6637

"WHAT TIRE SHOULD I BUY?"
Description: We're always asked this basic question. First and formost there are different tire types that best fit your purpose.

The TOYO Proxes RA-1 continues to be the very best all around tire for driving to and from a high performance driving or track day event.

The TOYO RA-1 is unsurpassed in it's ability to 'heat cycle' better than any other tire on the planet.

At full or near full tread depth it provides excellent grip and long life for a "R" compound tire. And at a shaved tread depth of 4/32nds is has proven to be a very quick and predictable tire. So much so it was chosen to be the SPEC MIATA Spec tire for 2006 to 2009.

Also, the all NEW R-888 is molded at 6/32nds is an instant hit with track day and HPDE competitors as well as the various spec tire series now using the R-888 tire. This tire has the renown TOYO capacity for resistance to the dreaded 'heat cycling' which other tire brands cannot seem to duplicate! The R-888 is the designated replacement for the RA-1 which has been in the USA since 1992! The R-888 is the new tire used by the Speedvision World Challenge Touring and GT series! Thus proving it's ability to perform under extremely harsh conditions.

Plus at full tread depth it provides excellent grip in on a wet track.
All around the Proxes new R-888's and the famous RA-1 are a great buy for your money.

DIFFERENCES between the R-888 and the RA-1? The R-888 has a stiffer sidewall which provides greater grip under hard braking as well as giving you more mid-corner grip.

The HANKOOK VENTUS Z-214 is the new kid on the block but has established itself as a true champion. The Hankook Z214 continues set record race wins as well as track records in SCCA Improved Touring, NASA classes.

With a molded 4/32nd TWO GROOVE tread patten the Hankook Z-214 is a ringer for the look of the HOOSIER and R-6 and A-6 but has proven to be much quicker and more durable.
Competitors have documented over 25 heat cycles on the Hankook Z214 without the tire slowing!
Additionally Hankook has the best contingency program in the entire USA.
All in all there is only one downside and that is the Hankook Z214 cannot be driven on the street although it is considered a DOT tire as is the Hoosier R-6 and A-6 by sanctioning bodies

Competitors are reporting setting new records at tracks, autocrosses and hill climbs across the nation with the HANKOOK VENTUS Z-214 competition tire.

As a competition tire we DO NOT RECOMMEND this tire be driven on the street. It is a true competition tire just as the Hoosier R-6 and AVON TECH R tires.

Hankook offers the Z214 in 2 compounds depending upon the size. The c7 is the softer compound providing instantly quick laps with little or no warmup. Excellent for Autocross or for someone wishing to set a new qualifying record!
The c5 compound is considered the work horse of the Hankook line but don't think for a minute it is slow! The C-5 compound provides all around amazingly quick times lap after lap on road courses while showing very little wear

. The Hankook Z-214 provides nearly the wear of the TOYO while performing like the Hoosier.


PLUS Hankook offers the best contingency program of any manufacturer covering most club events, endurance events and rally events.

And speaking of RALLY TIRES take a look at the full line of HANKOOK Ventus R201, R202, R203, R203 and R204 Rally Tires. Currently the Hankook Ventus Rally Tires are setting the competition on edge by providing superior rally performance at a very low cost!


HOOSIER R-6 road race, A-6 autocross tire: The industry standard for years. The new R-6, A-6 line incorporates years of track data into the new improved design. Still the #1 choice for SCCA open competition with a huge assortment of sizes to fit virtually any application.


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A special note for all: So many times customers will attempt to put a tire that is wider than is recommended for a specified rim width.
This WILL ABSOLUTELY affect the performance of the tire causing an increase in tire wear, inconsistant and poor performance.

DON'T DO IT!
The best fitment for a tire's performance is for the rim width to be equal to the tread width of the tire. Using rims that are narrower or wider than the tire manufactures recommendations is an extremely poor decision and very unprofessional.
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:02 AM   #3
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Thanks for the info
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:52 AM   #4
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Mick's last statement I agree 100% with...Many people I know are like oh I want to put 275's on a 8.5" wide wheel or 9" wide wheel..They fail to realize that actually causes more flex in the sidewall and reduces the contact patch.
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Old 08-22-2010, 04:18 AM   #5
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Old 08-22-2010, 02:09 PM   #6
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if you are wanting the fastest wheel/ tire package for the track, it will be
315 30 18 front and 335 30 18 rear on 18x11 front and 18x12 rears.
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Old 08-22-2010, 03:03 PM   #7
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CCDAN has a video of a STOCK SS with that wheel/tire package that is insane. He did my set-up on 20's

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Old 08-26-2010, 04:10 AM   #8
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Old 08-26-2010, 04:14 AM   #9
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mike check out www.scr-scca.com its the south carolina chapter for auto crossing from sports car clubs of america, a nationwide autocross club. Actually they are having two events in september, one at the track you told me about, and one in north charleston, which i am going too.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:27 AM   #10
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if you are wanting the fastest wheel/ tire package for the track, it will be
315 30 18 front and 335 30 18 rear on 18x11 front and 18x12 rears.
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John at CCW built them for my car. They take a little bit of work to make them fit but give you the bigest footprint from a tire you can get on the 2010 Camaro, and help to lower it as well. I have Hoosier A6 tires mounted on C2K's for the track. They stick out of the fenderwell about 1 inch front and rear. My car is lowered about an inch in the suspension as well.


















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Old 09-04-2010, 09:59 AM   #13
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For stock 9" rims the stickiest option are the Toyo R888. I have them on the same set-up, 4 x 9" rear rims and traction is unbelievable. Of course a square 10" set-up would be optimum, but spending that kind of money may not always be an option.

Here is a video from last weekends track event running the above set-up for the first time.


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Thanks Erik for the info, Great video....I just ran Roebling Road last saturday, I had a blast, stock 21" tires are doing so well 3 track events so far...
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Thanks Erik for the info, Great video....I just ran Roebling Road last saturday, I had a blast, stock 21" tires are doing so well 3 track events so far...
Happy to help! I have about 30 trackdays and Autox events under my belt with the Camaro, and tried several different wheel/tire set-ups so I feel quite confident that I have found a few good set-ups.

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Finally after months of research, I've got some very good info...Thanks again Erik for all the great info, mostly by PM'S.
I am very much leaning on the way of the Toyo's
1 more question, when you say that the Toyo's don't last that long, about how many track days do you think you can get out of them???
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Finally after months of research, I've got some very good info...Thanks again Erik for all the great info, mostly by PM'S.
I am very much leaning on the way of the Toyo's
1 more question, when you say that the Toyo's don't last that long, about how many track days do you think you can get out of them???
I would say an easy 6-8 track days, halfway through I would make sure to have them rotated by your tire shop to get the most out of them. They are directional you have to literally swap tire - wheel.

I only have 1 full track day on my new set so it's hard to say exactly how long, but that's typically what I have seen before on my Vette.

Anytime Michael!

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Once again thanks for all the great info....
P.S do you have a good tire connection??? (to buy)
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Once again thanks for all the great info....
P.S do you have a good tire connection??? (to buy)
You've got mail! (Or a PM in this matter)
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Update, I purchased a set of Toyo's R888 285/35/20 from Erik today, they should be delivered sometime this week..Service from Erik was outstanding, he is extremely knowledgeable about the Camaro, just what I was looking for..
Again Thanks so much for all your help.....Michael
P.S looking forward to doing more business with you.
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Update, I purchased a set of Toyo's R888 285/35/20 from Erik today, they should be delivered sometime this week..Service from Erik was outstanding, he is extremely knowledgeable about the Camaro, just what I was looking for..
Again Thanks so much for all your help.....Michael
P.S looking forward to doing more business with you.
Post Pics and vids when you run with those new tires, I'm considering the same for the LSX Shootout..................

PM me when you get a chance as well!
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Update, I purchased a set of Toyo's R888 285/35/20 from Erik today, they should be delivered sometime this week..Service from Erik was outstanding, he is extremely knowledgeable about the Camaro, just what I was looking for..
Again Thanks so much for all your help.....Michael
P.S looking forward to doing more business with you.
Thank you Michael, I appreciate the kind words. I look forward to you guys heading down here for one of our track days!


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Post Pics and vids when you run with those new tires, I'm considering the same for the LSX Shootout..................

PM me when you get a chance as well!

Will do, you'll have 2 shortly. One response to yours and one about the tires!

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