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Old 12-01-2008, 02:41 PM   #26
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Old 12-01-2008, 04:11 PM   #27
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Avalanche....

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sorry, but i dont care for them, or the Ridgeline or any of the half SUV/half trucks.

if you are going to buy a truck, buy a truck.


but i would say wait for the camaro.
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I am giving my wife my Speed6 and getting a Camaro 2SS/RS. I bought a 99 Silverado for $8000 to use when I need to haul things. It all comes down to what you really want. I got rid of my 98 SS for a 2002 Silverado about 5 years ago and now I am going back to what I really want - the SS.
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Old 12-01-2008, 05:22 PM   #30
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Take my advice...get what is most enjoyable to drive. After 20 cars I've realized the only vehicles I truly miss were the fun drivers. This Camaro is going to give me some much needed peace of mind. Currently my little crossover Suzuki is making life miserable.
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Why the hate towards the Avalanche? To follow the logic of 'if you need a truck, buy a real truck' to its ultimate conclusion, there should be no midsized trucks, or 1/2 tons or 3/4 tons. They should all be 1 ton diesels with dullys, or bigger. The Avalanche is essentially a Silverado crew cab with a short box and a midgate to extend the length of the box. And unless someone needs to haul lots of loose gravel or dirt, or needs to take 4 or more people to pick up things like plywood, how is it so much less useful than a silverado 1500?
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:24 PM   #32
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Yeah and in addition to the above ^^^^

I have put too much tonage of gravel in the back of my Avalanche bed, I don't see how a say Silverado 1500 would allow me to haul any more, they are both half ton trucks. (Don't say get a 3/4 because they make 3/4 Av's too :P )

On top of that lets see you get a 10 sheets of plywood, mdf, or any 8ft lumber in the back of a standard bed pickup truck in a rain storm and keep it dry. I just have to drop the mid gate, slide it in, close the tailgate and wala. With a standard bed pickup, you would A. have to tie the crap down so it doesn't slide out the back, and B. If you don't have a cap, it would get soaked.

AVALANCHE - most versatile vehicle made, period..

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Old 12-01-2008, 07:54 PM   #33
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Yeah and in addition to the above ^^^^

I have put too much tonage of gravel in the back of my Avalanche bed, I don't see how a say Silverado 1500 would allow me to haul any more, they are both half ton trucks. (Don't say get a 3/4 because they make 3/4 Av's too :P )

On top of that lets see you get a 10 sheets of plywood, mdf, or any 8ft lumber in the back of a standard bed pickup truck in a rain storm and keep it dry. I just have to drop the mid gate, slide it in, close the tailgate and wala. With a standard bed pickup, you would A. have to tie the crap down so it doesn't slide out the back, and B. If you don't have a cap, it would get soaked.

AVALANCHE - most versatile vehicle main, period..
Gee, I can get 30 sheets of full length sheetrock or plywood in my 15 series van and keep it dry along with three people. And if I open the door in the wall between cargo and cab I can get 12' material in there and still shut the rear doors. I've dealt with short bed pickups enough over the years that IMHO they are worthless for my needs. If an Avalanche works for your needs, that's great, but I wouldn't have one (unless it was after I retire in a few years and don't need maximum capacity anymore).
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Yeah and in addition to the above ^^^^

I have put too much tonage of gravel in the back of my Avalanche bed, I don't see how a say Silverado 1500 would allow me to haul any more, they are both half ton trucks. (Don't say get a 3/4 because they make 3/4 Av's too :P )

On top of that lets see you get a 10 sheets of plywood, mdf, or any 8ft lumber in the back of a standard bed pickup truck in a rain storm and keep it dry. I just have to drop the mid gate, slide it in, close the tailgate and wala. With a standard bed pickup, you would A. have to tie the crap down so it doesn't slide out the back, and B. If you don't have a cap, it would get soaked.

AVALANCHE - most versatile vehicle main, period..


Haha my parents have a 97 1500 Express and it's not even funny the stuff they've hauled in that van...
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Wow! Quite a lot of feedback. Thanks guys! At this point, I'm still waiting anyway. And as some of you have said, ideally, I'd love to have both, but finances just don't permit it. And I don't really understand the "not a truck" logic about the Avalanche either. It's big, has TONS of cargo space, not to mention you have the option, something other trucks don't give, of how much space is available to you. On top of that, and something I haven't experienced in other trucks, is the handling. That 7,000-lb Avalanche handles like a very nice sedan. I was extremely impressed.

Anyway, all that aside, I'm kinda leaning to what those of you are saying about the fun factor. The Avalanche has a lot going for it, but we all know the Camaro will be loads more fun! And of course, it'll have a bit of cargo/passenger space as well. I'm just ready to get out of my Cobalt. It's a great car in some aspects, but it's just too small for a 6-foot, 215-lb guy like myself...

What's hard for me is the wait!! I'm probably not getting a Camaro until mid- to late- 2009. I'd like to see if the asking prices will go down next year. But I'm so ready for it now!
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Can't wait to get out of mine too... IF you don't need the utility then it's an easy answer. Camaro.
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I have an 07 Avy bought in Nov07 got a great deal, best truck I have ever owned. This will haoul anything you might need especially if you take the window and crossmember out under the window. Even without the midgate lowered you can leave the tailgate down and easily haul 8ft lumber. As far as ride it might as well be a Cadillac and the interior on the LTZ is incredible. This is every bit a truck as well as a smooth as silk SUV. You can not go wrong with your owm Avalanche. Best bet is to get both, I plan on looking at the Camaro when it comes out but no way I would get rid if the AVY. Go to this website to find out more about the Chevy Avalanche http://www.chevyavalanchefanclub.com...oard,58.0.html
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Just wanted to remind everyone that the late-build GMT-800 Avalanches no longer had plastic cladding. The current GMT-900 Avalanches do not have plastic cladding either.
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Old 12-01-2008, 10:22 PM   #40
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Wow! Quite a lot of feedback. Thanks guys! At this point, I'm still waiting anyway. And as some of you have said, ideally, I'd love to have both, but finances just don't permit it. And I don't really understand the "not a truck" logic about the Avalanche either. It's big, has TONS of cargo space, not to mention you have the option, something other trucks don't give, of how much space is available to you. On top of that, and something I haven't experienced in other trucks, is the handling. That 7,000-lb Avalanche handles like a very nice sedan. I was extremely impressed.

Anyway, all that aside, I'm kinda leaning to what those of you are saying about the fun factor. The Avalanche has a lot going for it, but we all know the Camaro will be loads more fun! And of course, it'll have a bit of cargo/passenger space as well. I'm just ready to get out of my Cobalt. It's a great car in some aspects, but it's just too small for a 6-foot, 215-lb guy like myself...

What's hard for me is the wait!! I'm probably not getting a Camaro until mid- to late- 2009. I'd like to see if the asking prices will go down next year. But I'm so ready for it now!
I'll bet you can get a really good deal right now on an 08 Avalanche.
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Yeah...try $5,000 off an '08 model.
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to the OP, do you need a utility vehicle?
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Yeah...try $5,000 off an '08 model.
Actually, I was offered $10k off the sticker...

And no I don't NEED it, at least not in the sense that I work a manual labor job where I need to haul lumber/gravel/work equipment, etc, nor do I have any large equipment or trailers to tow, but it certainly is nice to have that space. You never know when you might need it, or someone else might need to use it... And again, I was just really impressed with how well it drove for a truck, or for any vehicle for that matter, and it just felt so strong and secure with all that size. It sure is fun sitting above just about everyone else on the road too...

So what ARE the lucky lotto numbers this week...?
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Actually, I was offered $10k off the sticker...

And no I don't NEED it, at least not in the sense that I work a manual labor job where I need to haul lumber/gravel/work equipment, etc, nor do I have any large equipment or trailers to tow, but it certainly is nice to have that space. You never know when you might need it, or someone else might need to use it... And again, I was just really impressed with how well it drove for a truck, or for any vehicle for that matter, and it just felt so strong and secure with all that size. It sure is fun sitting above just about everyone else on the road too...

So what ARE the lucky lotto numbers this week...?
Then get the Camaro. Too many people bought trucks and SUV's 'just in case' and also because, well, see highlighted. Besides, the Camaro will get better gas mileage.
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Actually, I was offered $10k off the sticker...

And no I don't NEED it, at least not in the sense that I work a manual labor job where I need to haul lumber/gravel/work equipment, etc, nor do I have any large equipment or trailers to tow, but it certainly is nice to have that space. You never know when you might need it, or someone else might need to use it... And again, I was just really impressed with how well it drove for a truck, or for any vehicle for that matter, and it just felt so strong and secure with all that size. It sure is fun sitting above just about everyone else on the road too...

So what ARE the lucky lotto numbers this week...?
Yeah I would say that if you don't "need" the utility then def wait and get a Camaro. It will be worth the wait. But nothing wrong with getting the Avalanche, it's a great truck and if you can get one for 10k off then that's a pretty good deal. I think they are awesome trucks. Very versatile.

I've always driven small two door coupes my whole life, 84 Celica, 89 Daytona Turbo, 01 Cavalier 2dr, and currently my 06 Cobalt SS/SC.

I sorta went through what you are going through, because I plan on breaking away from the small 2dr coupe mold for a while (even though I love them) and plan on getting a TrailBlazer SS. Then after I pay it off get a Camaro SS or a used Corvette or something later down the road.

I also believe that you said you won't be able to purchase one until around summer of next year, which hey that's like 6+ months away so that's a ways away. If you don't want to wait that long then jump on the Avalanche, but just really think it through because you don't want to be kicking yourself in the pants 6 months down the road when it's summer and the Camaros are out and you're saying "I wish I had waited to get the Camaro", so also try and think of what option you think you will regret the least, but only you can make that decision.
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So what ARE the lucky lotto numbers this week...?
Here you go*, spend wisely!

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Mega Millions..7,13,16,21,44 Bonus: 7.........11,44,46,52,55 Bonus: 27
Powerball.......15,20,35,36,53 Bonus: 21......4,21,36,49,54 Bonus: 37
Lotto 6/46.....3,19,23,24,43,46..................2,14,15,2 5,40,46
Lotto 6/47.....2,6,15,24,26,46....................5,15,18, 22,42,44
Lotto 6/49.....2,22,24,40,43,44..................14,18,22, 23,39,47
Lotto 6/51.....8,15,16,21,37,40..................5,6,8,31, 43,45
Lotto 6/52.....6,10,28,29,34,48..................4,7,30,42 ,43,49
Lotto 6/53.....8,13,19,41,46,53..................1,15,17,2 2,25,41

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Yes, but they still have that same plastic on top of the bed, around the top of the tailgate and surrounding the rear window. It still fades over time and looks crappy unless you paint it.
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Yes, but they still have that same plastic on top of the bed, around the top of the tailgate and surrounding the rear window. It still fades over time and looks crappy unless you paint it.
They have a product called gatorback that stops that fade. If you r under warranty the dealer will cover the cost under warranty. But the fact that GM knows of the problem since 2002 and doesnt apply gatorback at the factory is odd.
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