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View Poll Results: Should GM have done more to separate the '11 synergy from the '10
Yes - they should have changed the name on the color for '11 10 6.17%
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Old 08-24-2010, 09:16 AM   #76
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1. What's the difference?
2. It's still the same color, just because you got yours in a fancy smancy package and you're so proud it's a limited edishun, doesn't mean they should change the name of the color just for those who bought the LT Limited Edition. Hell, that's like saying because I bought a Silver Camaro, no one else should be allowed to buy them in Silver, that makes no sense...
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Old 08-24-2010, 09:36 AM   #77
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1. What's the difference?
2. It's still the same color, just because you got yours in a fancy smancy package and you're so proud it's a limited edishun, doesn't mean they should change the name of the color just for those who bought the LT Limited Edition. Hell, that's like saying because I bought a Silver Camaro, no one else should be allowed to buy them in Silver, that makes no sense...
What hes saying is that the impression GM made when the package was released is that the Synergy Green Color was limited to just that package and shouldn't have been available on any future production vehicle of this car.

I understand his reasoning, but there were specifics on their site that said the color could be opened up in the future based on market demand.
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Old 08-24-2010, 09:43 AM   #78
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Foremare, its no use arguing with the people that didnt buy the 2010 sgm special limited edition because they just dont get it! All i have to say is thank u gm for marking my car up 3,000 for the special green thread!! It sure was worth labeling it special limited edition for that!!
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Oh so what a 1lt is not worth what people pay for them, is that what your trying to imply?..and i will thank gm , i mean come on lets call a car a special limited edition when the only special freaking thing your getting is some damn green thread, give me a break why even bother!?
You stated yourself to "thank GM" for marking your car up $3,000. if you felt that was too high, then you shouldn't have bought it.


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Actually no, I couldn't get a spoiler unless I got an RS or SS, I couldn't get most if not all of the other options on LS. Some of the options would have still had additional costs even on a 2LT and may not have been available on a 1LT. So they added value to the 1lt I was buying in combination.

It was better optioned than any 1LT sold in 2010. IMO.
Only things on the Synergy that would be extra on the 2LT without the RS would be the spoiler and the colored door panels. (The sunroof would be an option) And the 2LT would have the leather seats.

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1. What's the difference?
2. It's still the same color, just because you got yours in a fancy smancy package and you're so proud it's a limited edishun, doesn't mean they should change the name of the color just for those who bought the LT Limited Edition. Hell, that's like saying because I bought a Silver Camaro, no one else should be allowed to buy them in Silver, that makes no sense...
I couldn't agree more to this Tac.
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Old 08-24-2010, 10:01 AM   #79
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Its pretty easy to identify the drivers who are under 25 and the drivers who are over 40 just on the comments alone - no?
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:24 PM   #80
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- the only special thing about the synergy special edition was the synergy color option. Other wise the edition is just an optioned (1LT).... ...

Not quite true.

The Limited Edition 2010 Synergy also included Green door inserts and IP insert as well as green seat stitching. Those items do not come with a 2011 Camaro when you order Synergy Green.

Here's a perfect lesson where no matter what you do, you can't make everyone happy.

We offered Synergy Green (a very controversial color, I might add) as a "Spring Special" if you will. Specials are usually limited to certain packages and have special equipment (in this case the interior items mentioned above) You'll recall that there were very limited options (sunroof/convenience pkg/trans choice) and, as was mentioned, it was only available on a 1LT. You could not get it with an LS - a 2LT -- or any SS. You could not order the RS package. Limited Edition. Limited Run.

If you were to go back in history to when we first announced the package, there was an uproar from the Camaro Community - making it clear that we should have offered the Synergy Green color on all models.

Just offering a new color isn't a Limited Edition - it's only a color - nothing other than that........

Well - we listened to you - and so you can order Synergy Green for a limited time on any 2011 Camaro.

Does that make everyone happy?

Nothing that I know of will.

Repeating - the "Spring Edition" Camaro had Green door/IP panels and green seat stitching. (also cyber gray stripes were standard) The 2011 Camaro in Synergy Green will NOT have Green interior panels or green stitching -- and you can order it with various stripe packages - or no stripe package whatsoever. You can also order wheel options - on the 2010 Model, you could not.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:30 PM   #81
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All it was dealers probably cried to GM they wanted a SS in synergy green to sell by request. So in a nut shell they released it. Money talks!
Actually the dealers never said much - -our customers requested it - and we listened to them.
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Guess pleasing everyone can only happen when segmented into groups and measured over time thank you for the message fbodfather...
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A question I have not seen asked in this thread is - for all of those who purchased a 2010 model (myself included), would you have done something else if you had known that you could purchase synergy green in any model? For us, we would have purchased a 1LT/RS. That is pretty much what we got. With stripes and interior trim included.
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I would have gotten an ss/rs and likely purchased a maggie at some point. The color was what drew me to purchase a camaro so I settled on the 1lt. I had no knowledge nor was any Internet source available to me to learn gm had plans to offer the color on all trim levels in the future. I was informed by the gm authorized distributor (dealer) that this color was limited and would never be produced again.

I respect fbodfather and appreciate his position that GM was giving the customers what they requested IMO in doing so GM gave up a substantial amount of credibility. We 2010 folks were simply marketing test subjects. Unfortunately some of us purchased based on a "limited release" concept. Using the limited release as a way to market the color then using those sales numbers to justify even more production seems well ... dodgey...

But, as fbodfather said, gm is just doing what the customers are asking them to do and if it sales a few more camaros then that ain't bad either.


The real question is - how many 2010 folks will trade up to a 2011 to get the color with a v8 drivetrain. Then the color can be credited for selling two units to a single purchaser. Score :-) ...
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The real question is - how many 2010 folks will trade up to a 2011 to get the color with a v8 drivetrain. Then the color can be credited for selling two units to a single purchaser. Score :-) ...
I will not be trading up but I will either add 1 of the 403 manual trans 2010's or a 2SS/RS SGM with a manual 2011 either of which will be used in about 2-3 yrs.
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The 2011 Camaro in Synergy Green will NOT have Green interior panels or green stitching -- and you can order it with various stripe packages - or no stripe package whatsoever. You can also order wheel options - on the 2010 Model, you could not.
I am in no way calling out fbodfather (I am a bit surprised that this one got by you ole boy) - but for those who are fortunate enough to create your own synergy special edition:

Assuming this post is correct the amo or ago order code will provide you the green door panels on the 2011 models...

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102296

Guess we have the stitching that makes the synergy special edition special. time for a clearly my sense of business runs counter to the new GM. Suppose if we all seen things the same way the world would be pretty boring.

Maybe if we wait till September an order code will appear for the green stitching.
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Old 09-26-2010, 03:46 PM   #87
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a word of wisdom....

this post is dated, so this may be old hat by now, but i am a 2-time corvette owner, and can understand the outrage of someone that bought a 2010 SG B2E. i have a new 2011 SG 2SS and the color is what i love that is what got me, at the time i ordered mine, the interior panels were not on the order sheet so i hope to still order them or paint them. little things like the green stiching are exclusive, and all the features u can got on a 1LT but at a great price. that RPO makes it special and for someone like me who wanted a SS, and frankly a HUD, like i had in my vettes, i can build up to that package on some levels, but i will pay more, and can never say is it one of 2500 cars, or that it was a package. GM and other car makers often try out specials colors or features to test the waters so to speak. that being said, the color is still limited avail(ordering is only avail to nov at this time), and the verts come out next year, will SG even be avail? no one can tell, and frankly GM needs to sell cars. I can say i will never claim i have a SG edition car, mine is simply a SG 11 2SS thats it. i can live with it and enjoy it. as a corvette owner, i am used to colors coming and going. I had 83U (atomic orange) in 07 it was the rage..i had a Z06 to boot, and that color lasted 3 years thats it. in the vette world limited editions are normal, that year a ron fellows edition (399 made) were the rage..along with pace car edition in AOM. So in the end, the B2E has better gas mileage, a full RPO dedicated to the package, so feel proud, and know all the 2011 SG camaros out there cant claim RPO status, just color code 708S thats it. I am personally happy with the 11 SS, mainly for the HUD, LS3, hurst shifter option that i got (and had to wait to get) i will have to order or paint the doors inlays, but hey thats life in the big color world. i love GM since they do special editions, and this one was great since the price was under 30k. Remember no one got the green sticthing, but B2E. i am going to adds houndstooth inserts myself, i like making it 1969 and BCM a hertiage grill

enjoy and smile all the B2E owners, u are in a great club..the rest of us wish we had the green stitching....
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We will have to agree to disagree about what makes it special.

The package including the spoiler, the stripes, the stitching, the auto with remote start, C&C, backup sensors, green door panels with ice, and being a special edition all made the decision of buying a V6 1LT in 2010 vs me waiting and ordering a 2011 SGM SS without all that.
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